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		<title>Torture, And The Cheney Denial Trifecta: Dick, Liz, and Mary</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[After weeks dominated by the subject of health care reform, one specter from the recent past has raised its head once again:  The Bush administration's politicization of our nation's security. So, the conversation begins anew, and with fresh, damning information...here's how it's going so far (there are some real surprises).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After weeks dominated by the subject of health care reform, one specter from  the recent past has raised its head once again:  <strong>The Bush administration&#8217;s  politicization of our nation&#8217;s security</strong>.  Not long ago, the torture debate  <em>had reached an  impasse</em>:  Attorney General Holder and President Obama seemed satisfied with  taking the position that CIA interrogators and contractors who tortured  prisoners under the guidelines provided in the Department of Justice  memos&#8230;even though the memos are <strong>LEGALLY UNSOUND</strong> and self-serving&#8230;were acting  in &#8220;<em>good faith</em>&#8221; and would not be investigated or prosecuted.  On a broader  note, even though it was suspected that the Bush administration manipulated the  law, the media, and the public in order to advance their political agendas and  to pursue extra-legal enforcement methods&#8230;Holder and Obama seemed determined  to let that sleeping dog lie as well.</p>
<p><strong>Then, two documents changed everything:</strong></p>
<p><strong>1 -</strong> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Inspector General&#8217;s Report on CIA Interrogations</span>:  <a href="http://luxmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o10/clients/aclu/IG_Report.pdf">The report  is quite clear</a>&#8230;our interrogators used means of torture <strong>FAR</strong> outside even  the egregious amount supported by the DOJ memos.  They threatened to kill  detainees, and put guns and even a power drill to detainees&#8217; heads&#8230;<em>this is  illegal</em>.  They threatened to bring in detainees&#8217; wives and children, and to  rape them or kill them in front of the detainees&#8217; eyes&#8230;<em>also illegal</em>.  They kept them  in filthy diapers for extended periods&#8230;induced hypothermia&#8230;induced blackouts  by cutting off blood flow to the prisoners&#8217; brains&#8230;struck them with knees and  rifle butts&#8230;deprived them of sleep for days&#8230;oh, <strong>AND</strong> they waterboarded them,  some of them repeatedly.  AG Holder finally had no choice, and appointed a Special  Prosecutor.</p>
<p><strong>2 -</strong> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Former Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge&#8217;s Book</span>:  Once a  symbol for the domestic front of the Bush &#8220;<em>War On Terror,</em>&#8221; Tom Ridge&#8217;s book,  &#8220;<em>The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege,</em>&#8221; <a href="http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/08/19/tom-ridge-on-national-security-after-911.html"> clearly paints a picture</a> of the manipulation of terror alerts for political  purposes.  He was the Secretary of Homeland Security&#8230;but wasn&#8217;t even  invited to National Security Council Meetings.  He was deliberately kept  uninformed by the FBI.  Essentially&#8230;he was told by Bush&#8217;s cabinet what  they wanted him to say, what to do, and what not to do.  He writes of one  particular &#8220;l<em>ast straw</em>:&#8221;  Attorney General Ashcroft asks Ridge to raise the  Terror Alert Level and to release an tape of Bin Laden criticizing Bush.   Ridge knew that there had been more than 20 tapes since 9/11&#8230;and none of them contained  any threats worth releasing.  Ridge also knew, that every time he raised  the Alert Level, Bush received a boost in the polls&#8230;and that the political  timing for a boost was very evident in this case.  Ridge and his department  denied the request, only to be pressured further by Ashcroft and Defense  Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.</p>
<p>So, the conversation begins anew, and with fresh, damning information&#8230;<strong>here&#8217;s  how it&#8217;s going so far (<em>there are some real surprises</em>)</strong>:</p>
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<li>Tom Ridge&#8230;seems to be having second thoughts.  Having recovered  	fully from his momentary lapse of honesty, Ridge 	<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-08-30-tom-ridge_N.htm?csp=34"> now tells USA Today</a> that he was in no way squeezed to raise the Alert  	Level, nor is he critical of the previous administration&#8217;s decision to keep  	him in the dark:  &#8220;<strong>I was never pressured&#8230;I&#8217;m not second-guessing my  	colleagues&#8230;</strong>&#8220;  You know, it&#8217;s bad enough if you say one thing on  	Monday and the opposite on Tuesday&#8230;but you&#8217;ll probably only get in trouble  	if somebody pulls up the video clips of both speeches.  In this  	case&#8230;you wrote it in your <strong>BOOK</strong>, Ridge&#8230;which is it:  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is the book a  	lie, or what you are telling us now?</span></li>
<li>But Ridge isn&#8217;t the only Republican to accuse the Bush White House of  	releasing information for political purposes:  former Representative  	Rick Renzi&#8217;s attorneys have 	<a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/renzi_lawyers_argue_bush_doj_leaked.php"> filed a motion</a>, calling for the government to show why it should not be  	held in contempt for releasing details of a grand jury investigation into  	Renzi, in an attempt to save his struggling re-election campaign.  Up  	until then, it had always been the DOJ&#8217;s policy not to comment on ongoing  	investigations&#8230;until Harriet Myers and Karl Rove approached them and told  	them to &#8220;<em>throw cold water</em>&#8221; on reports that Renzi was under investigation&#8230;   	which they did.  So, by our tally&#8230;that&#8217;s hiring and firing federal  	attorneys using a partisan &#8220;<em>litmus test</em>&#8220;&#8230;releasing the identity of an  	undercover CIA agent&#8230;and illegally releasing grand jury details for  	political purposes.  <strong><em>And the hits just keep on coming..</em></strong>.</li>
<li>Former VP Dick Cheney, now preparing for the upcoming promotion of his  	new book in earnest, responded as all would expect.  He called enhanced  	interrogation &#8220;<strong>absolutely essential</strong>,&#8221;  called the appointment of a  	Special Prosecutor to investigate our use of torture an &#8220;<strong>outrageous  	political act</strong>,&#8221; and said that on a personal level it &#8220;<strong>offends the hell out  	of me (Cheney)</strong>.&#8221;  Then, Cheney&#8230;appears to contradict himself.   	First he says: &#8220;<strong>We had a president of the United States, President Obama, tell us  	a few months ago there wouldn&#8217;t be an investigation.  Now, they get a  	little heat from the left wing of the Democratic Party and they are  	reversing course on that.</strong>&#8220;  Of course, even casual observers realize  	that the investigation has more to do with the release of the Inspector  	General&#8217;s report than it does &#8220;<em>pressure from Democrats</em>,&#8221; but it is what  	Cheney said next that seems more worthy of our attention: &#8220;<strong>The president is  	the chief law enforcement officer in the administration.  He is now  	saying, well, this isn&#8217;t anything he&#8217;s got to do with.</strong>&#8220;  Mr.  	Cheney&#8230;if you agree that the President is the &#8220;<em>chief law enforcement  	officer</em>&#8221; of the nation&#8230;and he is presented with clear, documented proof  	that acts were committed in violation with the Constitution and the laws of  	the land&#8230;then doesn&#8217;t <strong>HE HAVE</strong> to investigate it?  Otherwise&#8230;what  	kind of &#8220;<em>law enforcement officer</em>&#8221; would he be?</li>
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<li><strong>Like Daddy, Like Daughter: </strong> Of course, we&#8217;ve also come to expect  	that Liz Cheney will defend any and all of her father&#8217;s actions.   	Unfortunately for Liz, she decided to do so on a panel that included Sam  	Donaldson, who was quick to point out that her logic is both flawed and  	self-serving:</li>
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<li><strong>Cheney Denial Trifecta:</strong> Cheney&#8217;s other daughter, Mary, is unlikely  	to comment on the subject of enhanced interrogation&#8230;but appears to share  	her father&#8217;s penchant for denial.  I used to feel just terrible for  	Mary:  during the presidential campaigns, Dick Cheney was often asked  	about his positions towards gay rights, given that his daughter, Mary, is a  	lesbian.  I always thought it shameful that he chose not to defend his  	own daughter&#8217;s rights and equality.  	<a href="http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/31/mary-cheney-gave-1000-to-anti-gay-senate-hopeful/"> But now we find out</a>&#8230;that despite being a lesbian, in a lesbian partnership,  	and with adopted children&#8230;Mary Cheney donated to former Representative Rob  	Portman (R-OH), a GOP Senate hopeful.  Portman&#8230;is anti-gay marriage,  	and anti-gay adoption.  Maybe Dick just figured there was no need to  	defend his daughter&#8230;<span style="text-decoration: underline;">if she won&#8217;t even defend herself</span>&#8230;or maybe, it&#8217;s just  	another Cheney example of partisanship coming before what&#8217;s right.</li>
<li>In responding to Cheney&#8217;s positions&#8230;Senator John McCain (R-AZ) swung  	for the fences.  He said, &#8220;<strong>I think the interrogations were in violation  	of the Geneva Conventions and the convention against torture that we  	ratified under President Reagan.  I think these interrogations, once  	publicized, helped al Qaeda recruit. I got that from an al Qaeda operative  	in a prison camp in Iraq&#8230; I think that the ability of us to work with our  	allies was harmed. And I believe that information, according go the FBI and  	others, could have been gained through other members.</strong>&#8220;  Of course, then  	he qualified his remarks by adding, &#8220;<strong>I believe the president [Obama] was  	right when he said we ought to go forward and not back.</strong>&#8220;  I&#8217;ve said  	this before:  To admit that laws/treaties were broken, but then say there is  	no need pursue the legal investigation/trial process, violates not only our  	country&#8217;s laws, but also our values.</li>
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<li>Summary (<em>my paraphrasing, not actual quotes</em>) of 	<a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1919523,00.html">CIA  	claims</a> that McCain knew all about the torture they were about to commit:  	<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CIA:</span> </strong>&#8220;We told McCain and the others the six interrogation methods were were  	going to use.&#8221;  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">McCain spokesperson:</span> </strong>&#8220;Nuh uh!  McCain repeatedly  	questioned what you were going to do and never gave his approval.&#8221;   	<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CIA:</span> </strong>&#8220;Well&#8230;we weren&#8217;t really there for the legislators  	&#8216;approval&#8217;&#8230;just their feedback.  Some liked it&#8230;some didn&#8217;t.   	We were cool with that.&#8221;  <em>Why is this conversation so important?</em> Because Steven G. Bradbury, a deputy assistant attorney general, wrote his  	memo justifying torture, using the rationale that the methods were  	acceptable and legal because the ideas didn&#8217;t seem to &#8220;<strong>shock the conscience</strong>&#8221;  	of the legislators, and that is a legal standard related to the Fifth  	Amendment of the Constitution, which covers Due Process.  Perhaps the  	problem is that we need more legislators who have actual &#8220;<em>consciences</em>&#8221; to  	&#8220;<em>shock</em>.&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>Unlikely Advocate:</strong> Grover Norquist, president of <em>Americans for Tax  	Reform</em> and a leading conservative activist&#8230;<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/31/grover-norquist-torture-i_n_272785.html">thinks  	the investigations</a> into torture <strong>ARE A GOOD IDEA</strong>.  Of course his  	reasons are a bit suspect&#8230;he wants to be able to have the Obama  	administration investigated down the road: &#8220;<strong>Holder is making a decision that  	one administration should go back and second-guess another administration.  	Yes, it&#8217;s political but he is also opening the door to what will happen  	after Holder and Obama&#8217;s legacy here.  I think that someday when we  	have a different Justice Department, people need to go back and look at how  	all of this money in the stimulus package was paid. And who it went to. What  	about all of those secret meetings that were never transparent about who was  	going to get what?&#8230;The Bush administration started their administration  	foolishly, not seriously looking into the cash for pardons challenge that  	the Clinton administration had.  They were wrong to decide not to do  	that and I think that the next Republican administration will follow  	Holder&#8217;s path rather than the Bush path of the past.</strong>&#8220;  While his  	reasoning is certainly overtly political and almost sickeningly  	vindictive&#8230;he may be right on one level.  If <strong>ANY</strong> administration acts  	outside the law&#8230;shouldn&#8217;t the next administration investigate it, or  	should they just continue this tradition of a &#8220;<em>courteous disregard for  	previous illegal activity?</em>&#8220;  If an administration didn&#8217;t break any  	laws&#8230;what would they have to fear from an investigation?</li>
<li>Andrew Sullivan addresses part of the reason why what should be an  	exceedingly clear issue (<em>torture is both wrong and illegal, and we used  	torture</em>), has instead been allowed to become very muddied waters.  The 	<strong>MEDIA</strong>.  Sullivan takes Chris Wallace to task for completely &#8220;<em>softballing</em>&#8221;  	his interview with Dick Cheney 	<a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/08/chris-wallace-a-teenage-girl-interviewing-the-jonas-brothers.html"> in his column</a>, hilariously titled: &#8220;<strong>Chris Wallace, A Teenage Girl  	Interviewing The Jonas Brothers.</strong>&#8220;  Sullivan lists all of the weak  	questions asked by Wallace, and then shares his two favorite exchanges:&#8221;<strong>My two favorite moments:</strong><br />
<blockquote><p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CHENEY</span>: I am going to &#8212; if I address that, I will address it in my  		book, Chris. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WALLACE</span>: It is going to be a hell of a book. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CHENEY</span>: It is going to be a great book.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>And then the apology for asking the questions Cheney wanted asked:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WALLACE</span>: Well, we want to thank you for talking with us and including  		in your private life putting up with an interview from the likes of me. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CHENEY</span>: It&#8217;s all right. I enjoy your show, Chris. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WALLACE</span>: Thank you very much, and all the best sir.</strong>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
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<li><strong>Check This Out</strong>:  Dan Froomkin does a fairly 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/31/cheney-still-manipulating_n_273034.html"> thorough look</a> at the litany of public deceptions utilized by Dick Cheney  	over the years.  He includes a fascinating quote from 	<a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2009/08/the-method-of-cheneys-madness.html"> Obsidian Wings blogger publius</a>: &#8220;<strong>If you&#8217;ve noticed, Cheney tends to  	pop up in the aftermath of damning evidence. We just (re)learned, for  	instance, that our CIA agents murdered detainees, choked them, and  	threatened to rape their wives. Normally, you would think these revelations  	would give pause to even the most ardent Cheney supporters. But then Cheney  	comes along, and tries to reframe the whole story. His intended audience  	isn&#8217;t the nation as a whole, but <em>conservatives</em>. He wants to make  	sure that they view these stories through partisan-tinted lenses.</strong>&#8220;</li>
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<p>I will relay more news on this subject, and the subsequent denials from the  Cheney clan, as they are available.</p>
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