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		<title>Terror Suspects To NY Trial, IL Prison &#8211; GOP Fails To Generate Fear</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many people have been asking the same question over the last year:  "Is there a point where Americans will no longer accept terrorism-based scaremongering tactics?"  The answer has arrived: "Yes...and that time is now." We take a look at two current news items:  AG Holder's announcement that 9/11 plotters will go to trial in New York...and Gitmo prisoners might be coming to Thompson, Illinois.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people have been asking the same question over the last year:  &#8220;<strong>Is  there a point where Americans will no longer accept terrorism-based  scaremongering tactics?</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer has arrived: &#8220;<strong>Yes&#8230;and that time is <em>now</em>.</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>Recently, there has been considerable news coverage of two stories.  Two  stories, that actually represent the very same issue:</p>
<p><strong>1 -</strong> Attorney General Holder&#8217;s announcement that the masterminds behind  the 9/11 attacks would be tried in a federal court in New York.</p>
<p><strong>2 -</strong> The announcement that a prison in Thompson, Illinois might be used  to house Guantanamo Bay&#8217;s detainees.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start by taking a look at each of these issues independently:</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>New York Terror Trial:</strong></span></p>
<p>One can easily predict the response to <strong>BOTH</strong> these items from the  conservative camp.  Conservative pundits and politicians have made the  standard &#8220;<em>not-in-my-backyard</em>&#8221; argument, asking their viewers and  supporters, &#8220;<em>Do you really want these terrorists brought to the U.S.?</em>&#8221;</p>
<ul>
<li>Former New York Mayor Giuliani 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-collins/giuliani-the-brave_b_360408.html"> proclaimed</a> that the wounds in New York are still too fresh for the city  	to withstand the &#8220;<em>psychic pain</em>&#8221; of a locally held trial.  News  	flash, Mr. Giuliani&#8230;you can&#8217;t one minute tell us how strong New Yorkers  	are, and then tell us the next minute that they are &#8220;<em>too fragile</em>&#8221; to  	endure trials of the terrorists who attacked them.  <strong>The <em>former</em> is true:</strong> New Yorkers have shown themselves to be remarkably  	resilient, and there are few psychologists who <strong>WOULDN&#8217;T</strong> agree that a  	trial would be a further step in the healing process.  When people are  	attacked, it is of fundamental benefit to be able to &#8220;<em>face</em>&#8221; their  	assailants, and to see the assailants brought to justice.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Side  	note:</strong></span> Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) also opposes the trial,  	calling it &#8220;<strong>unprecedented</strong>&#8221; and &#8220;<strong>indefensible</strong>&#8220;&#8230;strangely,  	both Sessions and Guiliani had 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/sessions-giuliani-backed_n_362479.html"> no problem</a> eight years ago with Zacarias Moussaoui (<em>the so-called  	20th hijacker</em>) being tried in the U.S.</li>
<li>Former Attorney General Ashcroft says that a trial in a civilian court,  	rather than a military commission, would be too &#8220;<em>transparent</em>.&#8221;   	Too transparent?  Is there such a thing when it comes to the American  	government and our national ideals?  <strong>No</strong>.  The absence of  	transparency brought us unjust investigation methods, unjust arrests, unjust  	detentions, and unjust treatment of prisoners.  There is only one way  	to get that particular train back on the tracks, and that is to apply the  	two hundred year-old, Constitutionally mandated, Due Process of Law.   	That means courts&#8230;it means evidence&#8230;and it means a jury gets to weigh  	that evidence and determine guilt or innocence.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Period</span>.</li>
<li>Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/grassley-to-holder-rememb_n_362125.html"> said that all we need to do</a>&#8230;is to remember what happened in the O.J.  	Simpson trial and ask ourselves, &#8220;<em>Do we really want that to happen again.</em>&#8221;  	Really?  Is this perhaps the most inane thing we have ever heard from  	Chuck Grassley?  If anything hindered the O.J. trial&#8230;it was the fact  	that he is, to some, a beloved football/movie celebrity.  But Khalid  	Sheikh Mohammed and the other 9/11 plotters?  Does Grassley really  	think that a jury is going to wrongly acquit them because they are &#8220;<em>esteemed  	celebrities?</em>&#8220;</li>
<li>Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) told Holder that since Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has  	asked to confess his guilt to a military commission and be executed&#8230;that  	is what we should do.  AG Holder rightly pointed out to Kyl: we aren&#8217;t  	going to do what the <strong>TERRORIST</strong> wants to do&#8230;we are going to follow  	the American legal process.</li>
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<li>Karl Rove, Liz Cheney, Newt Gingrich, and Bill Kristol tried desperately  	to mobilize an angry mob to appear the day of the hearings, where Eric  	Holder would be explaining his decision to a Senate committee.  The  	effect of their scare tactics, utilizing the full force of the airwaves and  	the internet?  	<a href="http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/11/rove-cheney-gingrich-and-kristol-fail-rally-911-trial-foes"> Crickets</a>&#8230;</li>
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<p>It&#8217;s really quite simple:  These men participated in murdering thousands  of people in New York.  We have an established process for handling this.   We are very proud of our process for handling this.  The absolute  dedication to the application of the Due Process of Law is one thing that is  truly American, and encompasses all aspects in our belief in fairness,  justice&#8230;and the necessity for fairness and justice being decided <strong>BY THE  PEOPLE</strong>.  In the New York federal court&#8230;the defendants will appear,  and be represented by counsel.  The prosecutor, will represent the <strong> PEOPLE</strong>.  The jury, will represent the <strong>JUDGMENT OF THE PEOPLE</strong>.   What&#8217;s more&#8230;the process itself validates and establishes <strong>WHO WE ARE</strong> as  a people each time it is successfully conducted, and also serves as a point of  closure and healing for victims.  Much more so than some shadowy, closed,  military tribunal down in Cuba.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Relocation of Gitmo Prisoners to Thompson, Illinois:</strong></span></p>
<p>Thompson, Illinois has a prison.  An expensive, new&#8230;and <strong>EMPTY</strong> supermax facility.  Built during the boom times&#8230;when bust times came, it  was not practical to staff the prison, so only the minimum security section is  used, and for only a small number of prisoners.  The governor of Illinois  loves the idea of the prison&#8217;s super-maximum section being used to house  detainees from Guantanamo Bay.  The state&#8217;s two senators also strongly  support the idea.  The citizens of Thompson, a city experiencing very hard  economic times, love the 3000 jobs and over a billion dollars that the opening  of the super-maximum prison would create.  So what could possibly <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/14/thomson-prison-in-illinoi_n_358069.html"> be the problem</a>?</p>
<ul>
<li>Illinois Republican Representative Mark Kirk has been holding press  	conferences and circulating calls for support&#8230;saying that bringing the  	detainees to Illinois would make Illinois and its landmarks the new number  	one target for terrorists, specifically the Sears Tower, as it is America&#8217;s  	tallest building.  Kirk also warns that, if the Board of Corrections  	has authority over these prisoners, they will receive visitors&#8230;and he says  	that people would then have to be afraid of terrorists flying through O&#8217;Hare  	airport to come see their incarcerated friends.  <em>Ummm&#8230;Kirk</em>?   	The Defense Department would be buying the prison <strong>FROM</strong> the Board of  	Corrections&#8230;and has already said it would not allow the detainees any  	visitors.  Try doing a little bit of research first, before diving  	headlong into scare tactics&#8230;</li>
<li>Illinois Republican Don Manzullo, who is actually <strong>SUPPOSED</strong> to be  	representing the good people of Thompson (<em>who, again, want the prison to  	open</em>), warns that the terrorists will be brought here and then released  	into the Illinois community.</li>
</ul>
<p>Editorial boards across the country immediately <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/editorial-boards-slam-gop_n_362085.html"> criticized</a> this use of fearmongering, and set about stating the easy  counter-arguments to the GOP representatives&#8217; claims.  One of the best  columns, by <em>Sun-Times</em> columnist Neil Steinberg, makes some of the  clearest points:  <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/1889631,CST-NWS-stein18.article"> Here&#8217;s his column</a>.  I&#8217;ll summarize, thusly: First of all, there are  already Al Qaeda terrorists being held in Illinois&#8230;27 of them&#8230;it hasn&#8217;t  caused Al Qaeda to &#8220;<em>zero in</em>&#8221; on Illinois yet, so what&#8217;s 200 more?   Secondly, history proves that trying to avoid doing anything to provoke &#8220;agents  of evil&#8221;&#8230;doesn&#8217;t really work (<em>it&#8217;s called &#8220;appeasement&#8221; and you Republicans  claim to be against it</em>).  Third, being home to the tallest building in  the U.S., doesn&#8217;t really mean anything&#8230;when terrorists have shown interest in  military bases, trains and subways, shopping malls, government buildings, and a  multitude of other targets.  But it turns out, the columnists were not the  only people who thought the senseless fearmongering had gone too far;  Some  Republicans and conservatives are fed up with it as well:</p>
<ul>
<li>A statement was released by the Constitution Project, David Keene,  	founder of American Conservative Union, Grover Norquist, president of  	Americans for Tax Reform, and former representative and presidential  	candidate Bob Barr&#8230;saying that the housing of Gitmo detainees in Thompson,  	Illinois&#8230;&#8221;<strong>makes good sense.</strong>&#8220;  They didn&#8217;t stop there, and went  	as far as to say, &#8220;<strong>The scaremongering about these issues should  	stop&#8230;[there is] absolutely no reason to fear that prisoners will escape or  	be released into their communities.</strong>&#8220;  You can read the rest of the  	statement 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/16/conservative-trio-support_n_358928.html"> here</a>.</li>
<li>Illinois Republican Representative Jim Sacia 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/illinois-republican-we-wo_n_361114.html"> was even more direct</a>, saying that legislators (<em>including his GOP  	brethren</em>) who oppose the measure to move the detainees to Thompson&#8230;are  	&#8220;<strong>idiots</strong>.&#8221;  Sacia said, &#8220;<strong>My thinking on this is extremely  	positive.  If we lose this opportunity. All I can think of is we  	literally are idiots. I mean that sincerely&#8230;I understand I&#8217;m on different  	pages of music with others in my party. First of all this should not be a  	partisan issue in any way. If President Obama brings the detainees on U.S.  	soil and we sit here with a brand new state-of-the-art, max security prison,  	sitting vacant for the last eight years, and pass on an opportunity to sell  	it to the federal government, which we would fill it with 1,500 regular  	prisoners and 800 detainees, what is the problem? The building was designed  	to do that.</strong>&#8220;</li>
</ul>
<p>So, perhaps that&#8217;s &#8220;<em>it</em>.&#8221;  Perhaps Americans, even conservative  Americans, are not willing to accept arguments the consist of nothing more than  &#8220;<em>If we do [insert action here] the terrorists will kill you.</em>&#8220;   Perhaps Americans are no longer willing to set aside Constitutional rights and  the guarantee of Due Process&#8230;just in the sake of &#8220;<em>perceived safety</em>.&#8221;   Perhaps Americans think jobs and revenue are more important right now than  slippery slope arguments regarding what the terrorists &#8220;<em>might</em>&#8221; do.   And perhaps&#8230;just maybe&#8230;because Americans are no longer willing to be scared  into supporting GOP positions&#8230;the GOP is realizing that they have to make a  better argument.  <em>Just perhaps&#8230; </em></p>
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		<dc:creator>TBartine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It's Friday...and that means it is time for our weekly "Chaos Theory" installment of the RLF blog, where we gather together links on a variety of political topics ranging from the sublime to the sublimely absurd...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Friday&#8230;and that means it is time for our weekly &#8220;<em>Chaos Theory</em>&#8221;  installment of the RLF blog, where we gather together links on a variety of  political topics ranging from the sublime to the <em>sublimely absurd</em>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and there are always plenty of links, <em>so let&#8217;s get started&#8230;</em></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>POLITICIANS BEHAVING BADLY:</strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Representative Gregg Harper&#8217;s (R-MS) organization, the Congressional  	Sportsmen&#8217;s Caucus, has been recently called &#8220;<strong>bipartisan</strong>&#8221; by Senator Ben  	Nelson (D-NE).  When 	<a href="http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0910/get_to_know_a_congressman4.html"> asked by Polico&#8217;s reporter</a>, &#8220;<strong>What in the world does the Congressional  	Sportsmen&#8217;s Caucus do</strong>,&#8221; one might reasonably expect would be an answer along  	the lines of, &#8220;<em>we support the rights and interests of sportsmen, fishermen,  	and hunters, in Congress.</em>&#8220;  What one might <strong>NOT</strong> expect, was Harper&#8217;s  	response: &#8220;<strong>We hunt liberal, tree-hugging Democrats, although it does  	seem like a waste of good ammunition.</strong>&#8220;  Very nice&#8230;very  	responsible&#8230;<em>very</em> bipartisan.</li>
<li>Representative Michele Bachmann (R-MN), known most for conspiracy  	theories verging on the truly bizarre, has declared that she will not run  	for the presidency in 2012.  Which makes sense&#8230;since she may not even  	be able to win re-election for the seat she currently holds, as the  	residents of her district have grown more than a bit weary of her  	embarrassing statements, and the negative attention they attract.   	However, Bachmann 	<a href="http://minnesotaindependent.com/47697/bachmann-says-no-to-white-house-run-want-rep-steve-king-instead"> did provide an interesting recommendation</a> for who she thinks <strong>SHOULD</strong> run:   	<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Representative Steve King (R-IA)</span>.  That&#8217;s right&#8230;she&#8217;s recommending  	the man who brought us such hits as being 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/08/rep-steve-king-lone-vote_n_227866.html"> the only vote</a> against a resolution stating that it was wrong to use  	slaves to build our Capitol,  sponsoring his own resolution &#8220;<strong>recognizing  	the importance of Christians and the Christian faith</strong>,&#8221; and very recently  	stating that gay rights are a &#8220;<strong>purely socialist concept</strong>.&#8221;  Way to  	really think it through, Michele&#8230;he is a <em>winner</em>.</li>
<li>I guess Republicans just <strong>LOVE</strong> Twitter.  	<a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/blogtalk-twitter-and-the-gop/"> It&#8217;s also being reported</a>&#8230;that they love setting up fake Twitter  	accounts and webpages, where they pretend to be particular Democratic  	legislators and candidates.  They then use these fraudulent accounts to  	misinform and offend voters.  Twitter has caught on and is trying to  	close all the accounts being used by Republicans in this way.  I think  	I may know why they like Twitter more than actual blogs:  on Twitter  	nobody expects you to actually use <em>facts</em> and defend your position&#8230;you  	can get  	away with just blurting out a few words of nonsense.</li>
<li>The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee 	<a href="http://dscc.org/gopplan">has put out an ad</a>, claiming that  	Republicans have wasted over 1,000 hours in the Senate, through exploitation  	of parliamentary rules and procedures.  The DSCC does little to show  	how they arrived at this figure&#8230;but I would guess that much of what the  	GOP has fought for in Congress also qualifies as a waste of time.  <em>Need  	examples?</em> This clip, a spoof on the iPhone commercials, has been  	making the internet rounds, and I think it nicely sums up the kinds of  	platforms and positions the GOP is using to distract our attention, delay  	progress, and otherwise hinder real issues from being addressed:</li>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>THE MEDIA -- HACKS, PUNDITS, AND OTHER INVETERATE LIARS:</strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>A Telling List:</strong> Want to see clips of the &#8220;<em>Top Ten Distortions  	Perpetrated By FOX News?</em>&#8220;  Well look no further than 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/the-ten-most-egregious-fo_n_327140.html"> this link</a>.  It includes such highlights as accusing an Obama czar  	of condoning statutory rape, editing a clip of Joe Biden quoting John  	McCain&#8230;so that it appeared as if Biden said the quote, editing a clip of  	Barack Obama so it appeared that he supported a European-style health care  	system&#8230;when he was actually opposing the idea, <strong>AND</strong> directly repeating,  	<span style="text-decoration: underline;">verbatim</span>, GOP talking points as if they were news.  <em>Enjoy</em>&#8230;</li>
<li><strong>Glenn Beck, Part 1:</strong> A Hollywood charity is mounting a push to  	encourage more Americans to volunteer.  Since Obama has also supported  	volunteerism as important, Glenn Beck 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/glenn-beck-slams-obama-en_n_326632.html"> could only imagine one thing</a>:  That Obama is using Hollywood&#8230;<em>to  	turn us into Communist China</em>.  No, I&#8217;m serious&#8230;here&#8217;s what he said: &#8220;<strong>Celebrities  	are coming together to make it cool to volunteer. Disney gives you a free  	day at the park. This is all fine, but doesn&#8217;t it seem a little bit  	convenient that all of this comes out now at the same time the Obama  	administration is calling for it? Obama controls the message through the  	media he holds in his pocket. Or in his little hand. And soon if you  	disobey, he&#8217;ll just go [Beck slaps his hand]. Now the message will be  	embedded in television shows. Isn&#8217;t this great? Aren&#8217;t you proud of what  	we&#8217;re doing? Oh, this certainly is change.</strong>&#8220;</li>
<li><strong>Glenn Beck, Part 2:</strong> Why is it that every time I write about  	something Glenn Beck said, I feel the need to also say, &#8220;<em>No really&#8230;that&#8217;s  	what he said?</em>&#8220;  Well, Beck was busy this week providing more ammunition  	for whomever is filling out the civil commitment papers on him, 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/glenn-beck-smears-progres_n_327860.html"> claiming</a> that progressives/liberals&#8230;<em>wait for it</em>&#8230;have historically  	tried to take away everyone&#8217;s individual liberties, and could also be called  	&#8220;<strong>tyrants</strong>&#8221; or &#8220;<strong>slave holders</strong>.&#8221;  &lt;&lt;Sigh&gt;&gt;&#8230;</li>
<li>Neocon Frank Gaffney has claimed in the past that Obama was some sort of  	&#8220;s<em>ecret Muslim</em>,&#8221; that there is evidence connect Saddam Hussein to 9/11 and  	the Oklahoma City bombing (<em>there isn&#8217;t, of course, and shame on you if you  	didn&#8217;t know that</em>), that Sarah Palin learned foreign policy just by <em>living</em> in  	Alaska, that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (<em>but that the  	media hid this &#8220;fact&#8221; from us</em>), and that Democratic officials who criticized  	former President George W. Bush&#8230;should be hanged.  I tell you all  	this&#8230;so it will be of no surprise that Gaffney has no more decency than he  	has sense.  In a recent appearance on Hardball with Chris Matthews, he  	told Ron Reagan&#8230;<strong>that his father would be ashamed of him:</strong></li>
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<li>John Stossel of the FOX Business Channel recently condemned Lou Dobbs&#8217;,  	of CNN, for Dobb&#8217;s ongoing &#8220;<strong>rants about immigrants wrecking America.</strong>&#8220;   	Dobbs has now responded, and rather unkindly: &#8220;<strong>Fox Business News  	- their new hire John Stossel -- weighing in  		with his own brand of myopic idiocy and no information whatsoever sat  		down with self-described rodeo clown Glenn Beck…what a self-important  		ass</strong><strong>…He doesn’t understand basic economics…He’s just a silly  	little trick waiting to do some sort of Libertarian flip&#8230;Immigrants wrecking America  	-  I’ve never said anything close to that.  		As a matter of fact, I embrace immigrants to this country, I welcome  		them, I want more -- and as a matter of public policy, we need them. </strong> <strong>In no way am I restrictionist, and to hear this ass continue his  		act over at Fox News. I just can’t wait until he starts blowing bubbles  		in the air -- that’s about all he’s equipped to do.</strong>&#8220;   	That&#8217;s right Lou, you never said the &#8220;<em>immigrants are wrecking America</em>&#8220;&#8230;oh, 	<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/23/lou-dobbs-john-stossel/">except  	the time</a> you accused them of bringing leprosy here&#8230;oh, 	<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/23/lou-dobbs-john-stossel/">or the  	time</a> you claimed they were forming a conspiracy to take back their old  	national territory&#8230;oh, and 	<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/23/lou-dobbs-john-stossel/"> remember the time</a> you said they were a threat to the entire middle  	class, and working people everywhere?  Dobbs&#8230;before you start trying  	to play &#8220;<em>friend to the immigrant</em>,&#8221; and &#8220;<em>holier than thou</em>&#8221; with John Stossel&#8230;you  	might want to watch some your own clips on YouTube.</li>
<li>How better to wrap up the &#8220;<em>Media Gone Wild</em>&#8221; segment of the post, than  	with an Ann Coulter item.  During her appearance on Joy Behar&#8217;s talk  	show, she stated that all Presidential assassins have been liberals: &#8220;<strong>As  	I have not only witnessed in my own life but described in &#8216;Guilty&#8217;, every  	presidential assassination or attempted presidential assassination was  	committed by some kind of left-wing loon, communist, anarchist,  	communitarian, or they had no politics at all.</strong>&#8220;  Behar attempts to  	point out that this statement is indefensible and patently false&#8230;but Ms.  	Coulter has never been the one to stop talking so that someone else can  	point out <strong>HOW WRONG SHE IS</strong>:</li>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>COURTESY OF THE PENTAGON AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX:</strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Apparently, there are at least 220 detainees at the Guantanamo Bay Naval  	Prison&#8230;which have been found to have had no ties to terrorism, 9/11, or to  	pose any other kind of threat to the United States&#8230;<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>but we&#8217;re still keeping  	them in prison</strong></span>.  The Supreme Court 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/guantanamo-uighurs-rights_n_327027.html"> is preparing to look at this problem</a>&#8230;yet another in a list of how  	Bush&#8217;s use of the military prison conflicts with seemingly <strong>EVERY</strong> aspect of  	Due Process listed in our Constitution.  <em>A reminder:</em> the  	base/prison is technically &#8220;<em>American soil</em>&#8221; and the Constitution does not say  	that it applies only to &#8220;<em>citizens</em>&#8221; but rather to all &#8220;<strong>persons</strong>.&#8221;  On a  	related note, a group called <em>New Security Action</em>, with the support of a  	number of retired generals and other veterans, 	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYN6yeRWYbI&amp;feature=player_embedded"> has released a series of ads</a> pointing out that Congress should step  	aside and allow Gitmo, which has come to represent nearly everything wrong  	about the Bush-Cheney way of thinking, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">to be closed</span>.</li>
<li><strong>No surprise:</strong> Turns out the Pentagon was engaged in a highly  	organized program to sell the American people on the Iraq War and other Bush  	security policies.  <strong>Big surprise:</strong> Well&#8230;it wasn&#8217;t so much an &#8220;<em>ad  	campaign</em>&#8221; or a &#8220;<em>public relations program</em>&#8220;&#8230;as it was 	<a href="http://rawstory.com/2009/10/bryan-whitman-2/">a series of  	psychological experiments</a> being performed on the American citizenry.   	<strong>Bonus surprise:</strong> One of the chief architects of this program?  He  	still works at the Pentagon in the same position.  Scully&#8230;Mulder&#8230;<em>where  	are you when we need you?</em></li>
<li>Most people were a bit surprised at the unmitigated gall of the 30  	Senate Republicans who voted against Senator Franken&#8217;s (D-MN) bill, which  	would punish government contractors if they tried to keep employees from  	reporting rape.  Turns out, <em>they&#8217;ve got company</em> -- the Defense  	Department 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/defense-department-oppose_n_326569.html"> also doesn&#8217;t like the bill</a>&#8230;because they would hate to have to do  	without KBR, Blackwater, and other companies that threaten/coerce/bribe  	victims of rape to be silent.</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>THE HEALTH CARE CARNIVAL OF DESPAIR:</strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Amidst all the talk about a &#8220;<em>public option</em>,&#8221; few are paying  	attention to a development almost as big.  	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/senate-dems-aim-to-strip_n_328362.html"> Democrats are very close</a> to being able to strip away the anti-trust  	exemption given long ago to the health insurance companies, which has  	allowed them to behave as a monopoly.  Want to know why this is so  	important?  We know how the free market is <strong>SUPPOSED</strong> to  	work&#8230;but when a company is allowed to monopolize an industry or a region,  	then there is no competition to force the company to have fair pricing and  	offer good service&#8230;which leads to our situation today where the health  	insurance companies have high rates, giant profits, deny service, and  	mistreat customers.  Also&#8230;<a href="http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/06/health_competition_map.html">check  	out this map</a>.  <strong>Yes, it&#8217;s disgusting:</strong> most states&#8217; residents, 	<strong>RIGHT NOW</strong>, only have <strong>ONE</strong> or <strong>TWO</strong> insurers that they are 	<strong>ALLOWED</strong> to choose from.  &#8220;<em>Free Market Capitalists</em>&#8220;&#8230;are  	you listening?</li>
<li>First it was &#8220;<em>fat babies</em>.&#8221;  Then it was &#8220;<em>thin babies</em>.&#8221;   	Then it was &#8220;<em>spousal abuse</em>.&#8221;  What new excuse for denying  	coverage did we find out about now?  Yup&#8230;insurance companies, almost  	all of them, 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/insurance-companies-rape-_n_328708.html"> will not allow you to purchase a policy</a> with them if you have been  	treated for <strong>RAPE</strong>.  To them&#8230;it&#8217;s just another &#8220;<em>pre-existing  	condition.</em>&#8220;</li>
<li>The push for the public option is in full swing, and polls show it is  	working.  More of the public supports it each day, the House is within  	about <strong>EIGHT</strong> votes of being able to pass it, and we heard the 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/reid-is-only-one-or-two-v_n_331652.html"> surprising news</a> today that the Senate may be within <strong>TWO</strong> votes.  	<em>Seriously</em>: <strong>TWO VOTES</strong>.  Here&#8217;s a new ad, featuring Heather  	Graham, explaining why the option is necessary:</li>
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<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Interesting fact courtesy of Representative Anthony Weiner (D-NY):</span> <a href="http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2009/10/23/weiner-calls-gop-opponents-public-option-give-up-their-medicare"> 55 of the Republicans</a> opposing the public option because it&#8217;s &#8220;<em>government-run</em>&#8221;  	or &#8220;<em>socialism</em>&#8220;&#8230;they&#8217;re currently <strong>ON</strong> <strong>MEDICARE</strong>.   	Weiner says, &#8220;<strong>Even in a town known for hypocrisy, this list of 55 Members  	of Congress deserve some sort of prize. They apparently think the public  	option is ok for them, but not anyone else.</strong>&#8220;  Yes, indeed.</li>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>GAY RIGHTS&#8230;OR THE LACK THEREOF:</strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Wow</strong>:  It&#8217;s rare that someone actually <strong>ADMITS</strong> that their argument  	against gay rights and/or gay marriage is hollow and baseless.  Ross Douthat,  	conservative columnist for the New York Times, was asked while sitting on a  	panel for &#8220;<em>young, bright, neo-cons</em>&#8221; what he thought about gay marriage.  	<a href="http://www.observer.com/2009/media/n1-panel-cat-got-douthats-tongue-topic-gay-marriage"> His response</a>:  &#8220;<strong>I am someone opposed to gay marriage who is  	deeply uncomfortable arguing the issue in public.</strong>&#8220;  He explained  	that his reason for feeling &#8220;<strong>uncomfortable</strong>&#8221; discussing the subject,  	was because his argument against it is purely religious, and that it  	therefore represents &#8220;<strong>a losing argument.</strong>&#8220;  He even went so far  	as to recognize that because he is embarrassed that he has no real, factual  	objection to gay marriage&#8230;and because he is embarrassed to say what his  	objection really is&#8230;perhaps that means he needs to change his position and  	support gay marriage.  <em>Wow.  Again&#8230;wow.</em></li>
<li>Related to the previous item, a mailing sent out in Maine is attempting  	to persuade residents of the state to vote &#8220;<em>Yes</em>&#8221; in the upcoming ballot item  	to prohibit gay marriage.  The reasons that it proposes? I happen to  	have FiveThirtyEight.com&#8217;s 	<a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/arguments-against-gay-marriage.html"> summations of the reasons</a>&#8230;first, the mailing claims that the new law  	permitting gay marriage &#8220;<strong>won&#8217;t make gay marriage equal to straight  	marriage. Instead, it will create a new kind of marriage in which gay people  	and straight people are equal.</strong>&#8220;  Well, besides not making much  	sense&#8230;that&#8217;s certainly not going to &#8220;<em>stir up</em>&#8221; too many people.   	The second reason it offers: &#8220;<strong>&#8230;we may not have proven any connection  	between gay marriage and public education, our opponents haven&#8217;t disproven  	the connection, and it&#8217;s their fault that the subject came up.</strong>&#8220;   	Impressive&#8230;that doesn&#8217;t really say anything, does it.  I mean, it  	sounds like it&#8217;s saying something&#8230;but then it just&#8230;doesn&#8217;t.  And  	third, the mailing offers that, &#8220;<strong>if gay marriage is upheld, then marriage  	will exist solely to make people happy.</strong>&#8220;  Well,  	it&#8217;s hard to see how that&#8217;s true&#8230;would gay people marrying suddenly make  	heterosexual marriages &#8220;<em>meaningless</em>&#8221; and about nothing more than &#8220;<em>happiness</em>?&#8221;   	And hell, I know some people who will tell you that marriage has nothing to  	do with happiness at all&#8230;I&#8217;m sure they were just kidding&#8230;</li>
<li><em>Meet Philip Spooner:</em> Want to hear a86-year-old  	man&#8230;lifelong Republican&#8230;and WWII veteran who fought on D-Day&#8230;defend  	gay marriage with all his heart?  <em>Yeah, me too:</em></li>
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<li>Despite the calls from Republicans that protecting gay Americans was the  	equivalent of protecting practitioners of  <em>pedophilia, bestiality,  	and necrophilia</em>&#8230;<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/hate-crimes-bill-approved_n_330702.html">the  	new Hate Crimes Bill has passed</a>.</li>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>MISCELLANY:</strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li>The Nation, a well-known progressive magazine, 	<a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28609.html">is publishing</a> a &#8220;<em>companion piece</em>&#8221; to Sarah Palin&#8217;s new book, &#8220;<em>Going Rogue</em>.&#8221;  It&#8217;s  	titled &#8220;<em>Going Rouge</em>&#8221; and features an almost identical cover, to match the  	almost identical title.  Some conservatives have complained that this  	might lead to some people purchasing The Nation&#8217;s book by mistake.   	Perhaps they&#8217;re right&#8230;seeing as both books will likely be placed next to  	each other on a shelve in the &#8220;<em>Humor</em>&#8221; section&#8230;and due to the fact that  	many of the people seeking Palin&#8217;s book might not know how &#8220;<em>rogue</em>&#8221; is  	properly spelled.</li>
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<p>That about wraps it up for this week in Reality Liberation.  Have a  wonderful weekend, and we&#8217;ll see you on Monday&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Republicans have attempted to paint President Obama as the "most liberal" president ever, who is rapidly making "drastic and rapid" changes that are somehow fundamentally changing the country we live in. Upon what information are these claims based?  What has changed so PROFOUNDLY as to make these people feel that "their America" is slipping away from them?  Truthfully...is Obama even THAT liberal?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By now, Republicans along with much of the right-wing fringe have attempted  to paint President Obama as the &#8220;<em>most liberal</em>&#8221; president ever, who is  making &#8220;<em>drastic and rapid</em>&#8221; changes that are somehow fundamentally  changing the country we live in.</p>
<p>But&#8230;upon what information are these claims based?  What has changed so <strong>PROFOUNDLY</strong> as to make these people feel that &#8220;<em>their America</em>&#8221; is  slipping away from them?  Truthfully&#8230;is Obama really even <strong>THAT</strong> liberal?</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Some points for your consideration:</strong></span></p>
<p>-  Obama kept Gates as Defense Secretary and Petraeus as commander of  U.S. Central Command&#8230;it was said that this was to preserve some sort of &#8220;<em>continuity</em>,&#8221;  but the truth is, with our military so politicized under Bush, and our efforts  in Iraq so badly planned and managed, is there really <strong>ANY</strong> justification  for the holdovers?</p>
<p>-  Obama kept Geithner (<em>elevating him to Treasury Secretary</em>) and <a href="http://www.newsday.com/ap-source-obama-keeps-bernanke-at-fed-1.1392257"> kept Bernanke</a> as head of the Fed&#8230;and recently re-upped Bernanke for a  second term.  Again, while many may credit Geithner/Bernanke with helping  to &#8220;<em>avert an economic collapse</em>&#8220;&#8230;don&#8217;t we at least have to blame them a  little for, well, <strong>WHAT LED US <span style="text-decoration: underline;">TO</span> THE COLLAPSE</strong>?</p>
<p>-  Obama has stopped our torture programs.  And recently, he put <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32552121/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/"> a very special man in charge</a> of making sure our interrogators don&#8217;t torture:  <em>John Brennan</em>, the same man who, under Bush, helped <strong>DEVELOP</strong> the  torture program.</p>
<p>- Obama, while closing Gitmo&#8230;has kept the military commission available for  use.</p>
<p>- The Obama Administration backed the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/20/obama-backs-bush-on-bagra_n_168766.html"> Bush policy</a> that Bagram detainees in Afghanistan&#8230;have no constitutional  rights.</p>
<p>-  The Obama Administration opted <strong>NOT</strong> to release the photos of  the mistreatment of detainees, despite their claim that such items <strong>CLEARLY</strong> fall under the Freedom of Information Act.</p>
<p>-  Obama has <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/us/politics/04bar.html?_r=1&amp;partner=rss&amp;emc=rss"> asserted the same</a>, controversial &#8220;<em>state secrets</em>&#8221; policy employed by  Bush to protect the government against multiple lawsuits&#8230;no matter how  well-founded the charges.</p>
<p>-  Obama continued the Bush policy of refusing to release the White  House visitors list.</p>
<p>-  Obama has repeatedly resisted calls to investigate torture committed  by U.S. personnel&#8230;despite mounting evidence.  When forced to initiate  investigations&#8230;he has called for inquiries to go no higher than the  interrogators themselves (that is, ignoring the individuals who <strong>ORDERED</strong> the torture)&#8230;and only those interrogators who exceeded the fundamentally  flawed DOJ memos which gave only the semblance of legality, not actual legality,  to the interrogators&#8217; actions.</p>
<p>-  Obama has continued the use of Bush&#8217;s infamous, and unconstitutional,  &#8220;<em>signing statements</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>-  The White House is required to save all emails&#8230;millions from the  Bush years are missing.  <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/21/obama-administration-tryi_n_168843.html"> The lawsuit</a> from two advocacy groups calling for those emails to be  recovered?  The Obama White House opposed it and took steps to kill it.</p>
<p>-  The Obama Health Care Plan?  Not even half as &#8220;<em>nationalized</em>&#8221;  or &#8220;<em>socialized</em>&#8221; as the Clintons&#8217;.  It still allows for a system  dominated by private insurance, even <strong>IF</strong> the public option is included.</p>
<p>-  A challenge against the anti-gay marriage &#8220;<em>Defense of Marriage  Act?</em>&#8220;  The Obama White House <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/12/obama-defends-antigay-def_n_214764.html"> asked the court to dismiss it</a>.</p>
<p>-  A case that would have put the military&#8217;s &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell&#8221;  policy in front of the Supreme Court&#8230;the administration <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124268952606832391.html?mod=blog">let  the deadline to file a Supreme Court appeal pass quietly</a>.</p>
<p>-  The rendition/kidnapping program&#8230;kept alive.</p>
<p>-&#8221;<em>Targeted killings</em>&#8221; (<em>we call them assassinations</em>) in Pakistan  and Afghanistan&#8230;expanded.</p>
<p>-  In fact, almost all but two of the eleven key components of Bush&#8217;s  anti-terror tools <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/19/obama/">have been  kept</a> (<em>torture, and &#8220;black sites&#8221; are gone</em>), some of them have even  been expanded.</p>
<p>-  Warrantless Wiretapping&#8230;the Obama Administration actually fought to  keep it in place.</p>
<p>-  Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/276902">another</a> look&#8230;and <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/29575/aclu-lawsuit-tests-obama-openness-policies"> another</a>&#8230;and <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/08/25/obama_finds_himself_between_bu.html?hpid=topnews"> another</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>In fact, it looks like the people who most bought the &#8220;<em>campaign rhetoric</em>&#8221;  of &#8220;<strong>CHANGE</strong>&#8220;&#8230;were Republicans.  Because despite the fact that Obama  has led as nothing, if not as a centrist&#8230;who has to date <strong>NOT</strong> called for  drastic nationalization of the banks or the health care industry&#8230;who has <strong> NOT</strong> drawn a firm line in the sand towards defending civil liberties and  equality&#8230;and who has <strong>NOT</strong> reversed more than a handful of the Bush  administration&#8217;s most odious and unconstitutional policies&#8230;<strong>the Republicans  are still seeing Obama as some sort of &#8220;<em>lefty crusader</em>.&#8221; </strong> New  flash guys&#8230;you should be thanking your lucky stars:  the majority of  Americans <strong>DID</strong> want real change, are ready for &#8220;<em>lefty policies</em>,&#8221;  and are ready to see a return to the Constitution and the Rule of Law&#8230;we are  the ones who should be most disappointed and scared thus far, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>not you</em></span>.</p>
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