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		<title>The November Myth: GOP Claps&#8230;Tinkerbell Remains Motionless</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;ve been following the Health Care Bill post-passage aftermath, you will generally hear one of these refrains coming from the Republican Party and their supporters: 1 &#8211; &#8220;This will cause the Democrats to get crushed in the November elections&#8221; 2 &#8211; &#8220;We&#8217;re going to repeal this bill.&#8221; 3 &#8211; &#8220;The people are angry about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve been following the Health Care Bill post-passage aftermath,  you  will generally hear one of these refrains coming from the Republican  Party and  their supporters:</p>
<p><strong>1 &#8211; &#8220;This will cause the Democrats to get crushed in the November  elections&#8221;</strong><br />
<strong>2 &#8211; &#8220;We&#8217;re going to repeal this bill.&#8221;</strong><br />
<strong>3 &#8211; &#8220;The people are angry about this.&#8221;</strong><br />
<strong>4 &#8211; &#8220;Several states are suing the federal  government to block its implementation.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a number of conservative &#8220;<em>voices on the street</em>&#8221;  uttering the  first claim, in particular, so I wanted to take some time to examine  what I have  termed, &#8220;<strong><em>The November Myth</em></strong>.&#8221;  Let&#8217;s examine how three  political demographic  groups are likely to respond to the issues, followed by likely voting  outcomes.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>LIBERALS:</strong></span> Anyone on the far-to-moderate left is likely to  see the  passage of the Health Care Bill as a success.  Perhaps not what they  would  deem a &#8220;<em>full, unqualified</em>&#8221; success, but victory over what they  would view as GOP  obstructionism, and a corrupt Health Insurance Industry.  They are, of  course, not going to support repeal of the legislation, nor lawsuits in  their  states to block its provisions.  In other words&#8230;their reactions are  just  about exactly what one would expect them to be.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>MODERATES:</strong></span> This is the segment of the population that <strong>BOTH</strong> extremes  (<em>far left <span style="text-decoration: underline;">and</span> far right</em>) understand the least&#8230;and which  both sides often  mistakenly believe agrees with them.  Liberals assume that political  events  that stir their anger or their joy, provoke the same emotional response  in  moderates&#8230;and somewhat comically, conservatives are making the exact  same  assumptions about moderates: &#8220;<em>If we are angry, they must be, too.</em>&#8220;    They are most often, both <strong>TOTALLY</strong> mistaken.  Moderates are easily  fatigued by  partisan bickering, generally stick to mainstream news from the major  networks  (<em>if they even watch it at all</em>), and if there is one thing  unlikely to motivate  them&#8230;it&#8217;s ideological and political causes.  Extreme beliefs on either  side of the fence tend to  either turn them off, or even scare them outright.  They are already  adjusting to the bill: this group tends to set aside any complaints over  a piece  of legislation the moment it passes&#8230;and they quickly develop a sort of   acceptance: &#8220;<em>Well, it&#8217;s now law, so I guess we have to learn to live  with it.</em>&#8220;   A <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-23-health-poll-favorable_N.htm" target="_blank"> Gallop/USA Today poll</a> shows that the minute the bill passed&#8230;<span style="text-decoration: underline;">its  popularity  started rising</span>.  <em>What a difference a day makes</em>.  As the year  progresses, and <a href="../the-bill-will-it-help-you-if-so-when/" target="_blank"> the legislation&#8217;s initial offerings</a> affect these people&#8217;s lives,  you&#8217;ll find  them even more unwilling to consider repealing the bill.  <strong>It&#8217;s a  simple  principle:</strong> once someone has been given a benefit (<em>a tax credit, a  reduced price,  a service</em>) they don&#8217;t want you to take it away.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Plus</em></span> &#8211;  after watching the  debate over health care tie up Congress for a year&#8230;moderates will not  like the  idea of even more time being spent in a protracted battle to repeal it,  when  legislators could be working on other issues that polls show they care  more  about (<em>ie. the economy, jobs, Iraq/Afghanistan</em>).  Suing the  federal  government over the bill&#8230;will similarly look like a giant, futile  waste of  time and taxpayer money in moderate voters&#8217; eyes.  They will be told  three  things:</p>
<p>1 -  The lawsuits will fail <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/wyden-health-care-lawsuit_n_511748.html" target="_blank"> since states can opt out</a> of the mandate.<br />
2 &#8211; That the mandate was originally a Republican idea (<em>Orrin Hatch  and  Chuck Grassley, along with 19 other GOP Senators, <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35002.html" target="_blank">sponsored a bill</a> in 1993 advocating the mandate&#8230;now they call it &#8220;totalitarianism&#8221;</em>)<br />
3 &#8211; That they better <strong>HOPE</strong> the  suits fail, because if they succeed <a href="http://acslaw.org/pdf/Lazarus%20Issue%20Brief%20Final.pdf" target="_blank">it might  threaten Medicare and Social Security</a>.</p>
<p>These points will effectively end support for that  particular strategy among moderates&#8230;game, set, match.  In short &#8211; they   are likely unimpressed by this bill&#8230;over the next year will likely  enjoy at  least one of its benefits, which they won&#8217;t want to give up&#8230;and they  neither think  it is the &#8220;<em>great hope</em>&#8221; that the Democrats claim, nor the &#8220;<em>great  evil</em>&#8221; purported  by Republicans, which means they are unlikely to vote solely based on  this  issue.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>CONSERVATIVES:</strong></span> Here is where some surprises reside.  Like  their  counterparts on the far left, the supporters on the far right are fairly   predictable.  They will support any and all arguments against the bill.    They will favor its repeal, they will support lawsuits against it.   Moderate Republicans&#8230;<em>are a bit more complicated</em>.  Many of these   individuals chose to simply &#8220;sit out&#8221; the last election over the last  GOP  president and the current GOP leadership.  Many, once the benefits  of the bill kick in, will not openly and actively support its repeal.   This  is simply human nature.  Anybody who no longer suffers because of the  Medicare prescription &#8220;<em>donut hole</em>&#8220;&#8230;anyone whose child gets to  stay on their  insurance until age 26&#8230;anyone who finally gets insurance despite their   pre-existing condition&#8230;anyone who finds out they no longer have to pay  a  co-pay or deductible for preventative services&#8230;these people will (<em>quietly</em>)  not  support repeal.  I&#8217;m not saying they&#8217;ll suddenly start voting for  Democrats&#8230;I&#8217;m saying that a campaign war cry of &#8220;<em>repeal the bill</em>&#8221;  will not  motivate them to show up at the polls.  These moderates are also  increasingly not fond of being associated with Tea Party demonstrators  and other  far right extremists.  To them, lawsuits against the federal government  sound like an expensive waste of time&#8230;and obstructionist measures like  invoking  an <a href="http://rules.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=RuleXXVI" target="_blank">obscure Senate  rule</a> to stop all work at 2pm are starting to make them a little bit  embarrassed.<br />
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<p>So&#8230;what can we expect come November?</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>DEMOCRATS:</strong></span><br />
- <em><strong>ADVANTAGES</strong></em>: Passed the Health Care Bill.  By November,  many will  have benefitted from it.  Can claim some moderate economic successes.   Credit Card Reform Bill has a couple of laudable measures.  Have  generally  given off the <em>appearance</em> of attempting to be reasonable, even  bipartisan, which  will appeal to moderates.  No <em>major</em> blunders.<br />
- <em><strong>DISADVANTAGES</strong></em>:  Apathy&#8230;after nearly every successfully  presidential  election, a party can expect its voters to &#8220;<em>sleep in</em>&#8221; during the  mid-term  voting&#8230;and Democratic voters have been traditionally bad about showing  up  <strong>ANYWAY</strong>.  Promised much that has not come to pass: Iraq pullout,  Gitmo  closure, improved situation in Afghanistan,  regulating Wall Street.  Economy and jobs still struggling&#8230;and there  are  plenty of Americans who <strong>WILL</strong> hold it against a President and  Congress for not  &#8220;<em>fixing everything</em>&#8221; in two years.  Activists liberals have cooled  off,  since progressive agendas have been largely ignored (ie. <em>gay rights,  environmental issues, prosecuting those responsible for torture</em>).  Incumbency: Often in poor economic times, incumbents face tougher  re-election  bids (<em>due to increased &#8220;vote all of &#8216;em out&#8221; mentality</em>), and  since there  are more Democratic incumbents&#8230;fewer &#8220;<em>gimme</em>&#8221; elections for  Dems.<br />
- <em><strong>WHO WILL VOTE FOR THEM</strong></em>:  &#8220;<em>Still-hopeful liberals</em>&#8221;  across the spectrum,  ironically motivated more out of fear of all the extreme talk from the  right-wing, than by anything said or done by the Democrats.  Some  moderates,  either happy with what small progress has been made so far, or simply  turned off by the actions  of the far-right and the current GOP leadership.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>REPUBLICANS:</strong></span><br />
- <em><strong>ADVANTAGES</strong></em>:  Economy still stinks.  Many Obama promises  not  yet fulfilled.  Base is energized and likely to turn out at the voting  booths.<br />
- <em><strong>DISADVANTAGES</strong></em>:  They can&#8217;t really point to anything  they&#8217;ve  accomplished&#8230;and the one thing they tried to block (<em>Health Care</em>),  they failed  to do so.  <strong>AND</strong>&#8230;since they contributed nothing to Health Care  Reform&#8230;they&#8217;ll have real trouble trying to take credit for any of it.    Similarly, any attempts to take credit for improvements in their states  tied to  stimulus funds will be highlighted as political/ideological hypocrisy.   Plus, energizing their base came with a steep cost&#8230;it also  energized some liberals (<em>fear is a motivator powerful enough to  overcome  considerable apathy and disenchantment</em>), and has turned off minority  and  moderate voters.  You&#8217;d think they&#8217;d have learned from the last  election,  that it&#8217;s not worth it, because you cannot win without strong support  from  moderate and independent voters.  Just today, they failed to distance  themselves from the &#8220;<em>lunatic fringe</em>&#8221; and in doing so, pushed  moderates even  further out of reach. In responding to <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/25/republicans-condemn-viole_n_513211.html" target="_blank"> the latest violent and racist attacks</a> from conservative  supporters&#8230;the GOP  essentially said, &#8220;<em>We&#8217;re against this violence&#8230;but it happened  because people  are angry.</em>&#8220;  Representative Boehner: first of all, you cannot  condemn  violent acts and in the same breath try to justify them.  Secondly&#8230;see   below for my comment about your premise that &#8220;<em>the American people are  angry.</em>&#8221;<br />
- <em><strong>WHO WILL VOTE FOR THEM</strong></em>: Strong number among the far  right, good numbers but  less than expected from moderate conservatives, disappointing numbers  from moderate  sectors.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>NET OUTCOME:</strong></span> The Democrats will likely lose a few seats  in both houses,  but not nearly what one would normally expect in the first mid-term  election  following a successful bid for the Presidency.  Neither party will have a   dominant majority in either house of Congress.</p>
<p>This real-world analysis clearly contradicts the claims of the GOP  Party, but  that is because they are currently, completely absorbed in what I call, &#8220;<em><strong>Tinkerbell   Syndrome:</strong></em>&#8221; That is to say, they seem to think that if they say  something enough  times, and enough of their supports clap their hands and believe it to  be  true&#8230;it <strong>BECOMES</strong> true.  They tell us &#8220;<em>Americans overwhelming  disapproved  of this bill</em>,&#8221; and that &#8220;<em>Americans have spoken and they are angry</em>,&#8221;  and that the  Democrats&#8217; efforts violate the &#8220;<em>will of the American people,&#8221;</em> and   they tell us that all these angry people are going to turn out at the  polls in  November and vote out all the Democrats.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Problem is:</strong></span> These statements are  contradicted by most polls, statistics, studies&#8230;and any other  available real-world evidence.   And these statements effectively ignore <strong>LAST NOVEMBER</strong> when a  majority of  the American people did indeed display the &#8220;<em>will of the American  people</em>&#8221;  in electing Barack Obama and a Democratic majority in both houses.  In  truth, the GOP is  not in a position to tell us what &#8220;<em>the American people</em>&#8221; think at  all.   Their current and prolonged use of tactics appealing only to the  far-right  conservative base, <strong>GUARANTEES</strong> that they are unable to represent  anything  but a rapidly shrinking segment of the American population.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many people have been asking the same question over the last year:  "Is there a point where Americans will no longer accept terrorism-based scaremongering tactics?"  The answer has arrived: "Yes...and that time is now." We take a look at two current news items:  AG Holder's announcement that 9/11 plotters will go to trial in New York...and Gitmo prisoners might be coming to Thompson, Illinois.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people have been asking the same question over the last year:  &#8220;<strong>Is  there a point where Americans will no longer accept terrorism-based  scaremongering tactics?</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer has arrived: &#8220;<strong>Yes&#8230;and that time is <em>now</em>.</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>Recently, there has been considerable news coverage of two stories.  Two  stories, that actually represent the very same issue:</p>
<p><strong>1 -</strong> Attorney General Holder&#8217;s announcement that the masterminds behind  the 9/11 attacks would be tried in a federal court in New York.</p>
<p><strong>2 -</strong> The announcement that a prison in Thompson, Illinois might be used  to house Guantanamo Bay&#8217;s detainees.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start by taking a look at each of these issues independently:</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>New York Terror Trial:</strong></span></p>
<p>One can easily predict the response to <strong>BOTH</strong> these items from the  conservative camp.  Conservative pundits and politicians have made the  standard &#8220;<em>not-in-my-backyard</em>&#8221; argument, asking their viewers and  supporters, &#8220;<em>Do you really want these terrorists brought to the U.S.?</em>&#8221;</p>
<ul>
<li>Former New York Mayor Giuliani 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-collins/giuliani-the-brave_b_360408.html"> proclaimed</a> that the wounds in New York are still too fresh for the city  	to withstand the &#8220;<em>psychic pain</em>&#8221; of a locally held trial.  News  	flash, Mr. Giuliani&#8230;you can&#8217;t one minute tell us how strong New Yorkers  	are, and then tell us the next minute that they are &#8220;<em>too fragile</em>&#8221; to  	endure trials of the terrorists who attacked them.  <strong>The <em>former</em> is true:</strong> New Yorkers have shown themselves to be remarkably  	resilient, and there are few psychologists who <strong>WOULDN&#8217;T</strong> agree that a  	trial would be a further step in the healing process.  When people are  	attacked, it is of fundamental benefit to be able to &#8220;<em>face</em>&#8221; their  	assailants, and to see the assailants brought to justice.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Side  	note:</strong></span> Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) also opposes the trial,  	calling it &#8220;<strong>unprecedented</strong>&#8221; and &#8220;<strong>indefensible</strong>&#8220;&#8230;strangely,  	both Sessions and Guiliani had 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/sessions-giuliani-backed_n_362479.html"> no problem</a> eight years ago with Zacarias Moussaoui (<em>the so-called  	20th hijacker</em>) being tried in the U.S.</li>
<li>Former Attorney General Ashcroft says that a trial in a civilian court,  	rather than a military commission, would be too &#8220;<em>transparent</em>.&#8221;   	Too transparent?  Is there such a thing when it comes to the American  	government and our national ideals?  <strong>No</strong>.  The absence of  	transparency brought us unjust investigation methods, unjust arrests, unjust  	detentions, and unjust treatment of prisoners.  There is only one way  	to get that particular train back on the tracks, and that is to apply the  	two hundred year-old, Constitutionally mandated, Due Process of Law.   	That means courts&#8230;it means evidence&#8230;and it means a jury gets to weigh  	that evidence and determine guilt or innocence.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Period</span>.</li>
<li>Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/grassley-to-holder-rememb_n_362125.html"> said that all we need to do</a>&#8230;is to remember what happened in the O.J.  	Simpson trial and ask ourselves, &#8220;<em>Do we really want that to happen again.</em>&#8221;  	Really?  Is this perhaps the most inane thing we have ever heard from  	Chuck Grassley?  If anything hindered the O.J. trial&#8230;it was the fact  	that he is, to some, a beloved football/movie celebrity.  But Khalid  	Sheikh Mohammed and the other 9/11 plotters?  Does Grassley really  	think that a jury is going to wrongly acquit them because they are &#8220;<em>esteemed  	celebrities?</em>&#8220;</li>
<li>Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) told Holder that since Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has  	asked to confess his guilt to a military commission and be executed&#8230;that  	is what we should do.  AG Holder rightly pointed out to Kyl: we aren&#8217;t  	going to do what the <strong>TERRORIST</strong> wants to do&#8230;we are going to follow  	the American legal process.</li>
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<li>Karl Rove, Liz Cheney, Newt Gingrich, and Bill Kristol tried desperately  	to mobilize an angry mob to appear the day of the hearings, where Eric  	Holder would be explaining his decision to a Senate committee.  The  	effect of their scare tactics, utilizing the full force of the airwaves and  	the internet?  	<a href="http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/11/rove-cheney-gingrich-and-kristol-fail-rally-911-trial-foes"> Crickets</a>&#8230;</li>
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<p>It&#8217;s really quite simple:  These men participated in murdering thousands  of people in New York.  We have an established process for handling this.   We are very proud of our process for handling this.  The absolute  dedication to the application of the Due Process of Law is one thing that is  truly American, and encompasses all aspects in our belief in fairness,  justice&#8230;and the necessity for fairness and justice being decided <strong>BY THE  PEOPLE</strong>.  In the New York federal court&#8230;the defendants will appear,  and be represented by counsel.  The prosecutor, will represent the <strong> PEOPLE</strong>.  The jury, will represent the <strong>JUDGMENT OF THE PEOPLE</strong>.   What&#8217;s more&#8230;the process itself validates and establishes <strong>WHO WE ARE</strong> as  a people each time it is successfully conducted, and also serves as a point of  closure and healing for victims.  Much more so than some shadowy, closed,  military tribunal down in Cuba.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Relocation of Gitmo Prisoners to Thompson, Illinois:</strong></span></p>
<p>Thompson, Illinois has a prison.  An expensive, new&#8230;and <strong>EMPTY</strong> supermax facility.  Built during the boom times&#8230;when bust times came, it  was not practical to staff the prison, so only the minimum security section is  used, and for only a small number of prisoners.  The governor of Illinois  loves the idea of the prison&#8217;s super-maximum section being used to house  detainees from Guantanamo Bay.  The state&#8217;s two senators also strongly  support the idea.  The citizens of Thompson, a city experiencing very hard  economic times, love the 3000 jobs and over a billion dollars that the opening  of the super-maximum prison would create.  So what could possibly <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/14/thomson-prison-in-illinoi_n_358069.html"> be the problem</a>?</p>
<ul>
<li>Illinois Republican Representative Mark Kirk has been holding press  	conferences and circulating calls for support&#8230;saying that bringing the  	detainees to Illinois would make Illinois and its landmarks the new number  	one target for terrorists, specifically the Sears Tower, as it is America&#8217;s  	tallest building.  Kirk also warns that, if the Board of Corrections  	has authority over these prisoners, they will receive visitors&#8230;and he says  	that people would then have to be afraid of terrorists flying through O&#8217;Hare  	airport to come see their incarcerated friends.  <em>Ummm&#8230;Kirk</em>?   	The Defense Department would be buying the prison <strong>FROM</strong> the Board of  	Corrections&#8230;and has already said it would not allow the detainees any  	visitors.  Try doing a little bit of research first, before diving  	headlong into scare tactics&#8230;</li>
<li>Illinois Republican Don Manzullo, who is actually <strong>SUPPOSED</strong> to be  	representing the good people of Thompson (<em>who, again, want the prison to  	open</em>), warns that the terrorists will be brought here and then released  	into the Illinois community.</li>
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<p>Editorial boards across the country immediately <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/editorial-boards-slam-gop_n_362085.html"> criticized</a> this use of fearmongering, and set about stating the easy  counter-arguments to the GOP representatives&#8217; claims.  One of the best  columns, by <em>Sun-Times</em> columnist Neil Steinberg, makes some of the  clearest points:  <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/1889631,CST-NWS-stein18.article"> Here&#8217;s his column</a>.  I&#8217;ll summarize, thusly: First of all, there are  already Al Qaeda terrorists being held in Illinois&#8230;27 of them&#8230;it hasn&#8217;t  caused Al Qaeda to &#8220;<em>zero in</em>&#8221; on Illinois yet, so what&#8217;s 200 more?   Secondly, history proves that trying to avoid doing anything to provoke &#8220;agents  of evil&#8221;&#8230;doesn&#8217;t really work (<em>it&#8217;s called &#8220;appeasement&#8221; and you Republicans  claim to be against it</em>).  Third, being home to the tallest building in  the U.S., doesn&#8217;t really mean anything&#8230;when terrorists have shown interest in  military bases, trains and subways, shopping malls, government buildings, and a  multitude of other targets.  But it turns out, the columnists were not the  only people who thought the senseless fearmongering had gone too far;  Some  Republicans and conservatives are fed up with it as well:</p>
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<li>A statement was released by the Constitution Project, David Keene,  	founder of American Conservative Union, Grover Norquist, president of  	Americans for Tax Reform, and former representative and presidential  	candidate Bob Barr&#8230;saying that the housing of Gitmo detainees in Thompson,  	Illinois&#8230;&#8221;<strong>makes good sense.</strong>&#8220;  They didn&#8217;t stop there, and went  	as far as to say, &#8220;<strong>The scaremongering about these issues should  	stop&#8230;[there is] absolutely no reason to fear that prisoners will escape or  	be released into their communities.</strong>&#8220;  You can read the rest of the  	statement 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/16/conservative-trio-support_n_358928.html"> here</a>.</li>
<li>Illinois Republican Representative Jim Sacia 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/illinois-republican-we-wo_n_361114.html"> was even more direct</a>, saying that legislators (<em>including his GOP  	brethren</em>) who oppose the measure to move the detainees to Thompson&#8230;are  	&#8220;<strong>idiots</strong>.&#8221;  Sacia said, &#8220;<strong>My thinking on this is extremely  	positive.  If we lose this opportunity. All I can think of is we  	literally are idiots. I mean that sincerely&#8230;I understand I&#8217;m on different  	pages of music with others in my party. First of all this should not be a  	partisan issue in any way. If President Obama brings the detainees on U.S.  	soil and we sit here with a brand new state-of-the-art, max security prison,  	sitting vacant for the last eight years, and pass on an opportunity to sell  	it to the federal government, which we would fill it with 1,500 regular  	prisoners and 800 detainees, what is the problem? The building was designed  	to do that.</strong>&#8220;</li>
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<p>So, perhaps that&#8217;s &#8220;<em>it</em>.&#8221;  Perhaps Americans, even conservative  Americans, are not willing to accept arguments the consist of nothing more than  &#8220;<em>If we do [insert action here] the terrorists will kill you.</em>&#8220;   Perhaps Americans are no longer willing to set aside Constitutional rights and  the guarantee of Due Process&#8230;just in the sake of &#8220;<em>perceived safety</em>.&#8221;   Perhaps Americans think jobs and revenue are more important right now than  slippery slope arguments regarding what the terrorists &#8220;<em>might</em>&#8221; do.   And perhaps&#8230;just maybe&#8230;because Americans are no longer willing to be scared  into supporting GOP positions&#8230;the GOP is realizing that they have to make a  better argument.  <em>Just perhaps&#8230; </em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Increasingly, I am hearing grumbles from both liberal and conservative camps&#8230;regarding the <strong>DISMAL</strong> state of the American &#8220;<em>conversation</em>.&#8221;  It appears, at least from my utterly, and admittedly, unscientific eavesdropping&#8230;people are actually, <strong>FINALLY</strong> growing weary of the heightened rhetoric, loaded with violent innuendo&#8230;and discernibly lacking in facts.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The problem is:</span> they just aren&#8217;t tired enough yet to <em>really</em> reject it.  They are still entertained by Glenn Beck&#8217;s disingenuous ranting&#8230;they are still charmed by Sarah Palin&#8217;s vacuous speeches&#8230;they are still believing what their elected officials are telling them, even when it contradicts all logic and common sense.</p>
<p>Well&#8230;if you are one of those people who is just <em>not quite disgusted enough</em> by the current state of affairs, here are some very recent news items to help you along:</p>
<p><strong>1 -- ENOUGH HYPOCRISY TO GO AROUND:</strong> Yesterday, the Senate Finance Committee <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/29/first-public-option-amend_n_303228.html">discussed Senator Rockefeller&#8217;s amendment</a> to add a public option to the bill.  While it was nearly a foregone conclusion that the amendment would not pass (<em>in fact, four Democrats voted against it</em>)&#8230;the discussion leading up to the vote was shameful.  Senator Grassley (R-IA) showed his usual disdain for factual information, citing studies from the conservatively biased Heritage Foundation, as well as a study by the Lewin Group&#8230;which is <strong>WHOLLY</strong> owned by a large health insurance company (<em>it is worth note that he disregards all of the credible studies, including the one done by the Congressional Budget Office</em>).  He joined the chorus of GOP lawmakers who openly admitted that their argument, that the public option would lead to a government takeover of health insurance&#8230;<strong>was a &#8220;slippery slope</strong>.&#8221;  Of course, this shows (<em>once again</em>) that these politicians don&#8217;t know that a &#8220;<em>slippery slope</em>&#8221; is a type of <strong>LOGICAL FALLACY</strong>&#8230;an indefensible argument, not supported by reason.  And they are <span style="text-decoration: underline;">openly</span> admitting this.  The second part of their argument is that &#8220;<em>government run programs are bad</em>&#8220;&#8230;.but then when confronted with their hypocrisy regarding the government-run Medicare program, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/27/AR2009092703277.html">they don&#8217;t want any of its costs cut</a>, and they say that Medicare is <em>different</em> because Medicare is <strong>POPULAR</strong>.  Then, they have the nerve <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/despite-outrage-many-hous_n_304175.html">to boisterously object</a> to Representative Alan Grayson&#8217;s statement on  Tuesday that the GOP health care plan suggests &#8220;<strong>don&#8217;t get sick</strong>&#8220;&#8230;and if you do, &#8220;<strong>die quickly.</strong>&#8220;  This, while just last week, Representative Eric Cantor (R-VA) suggested to a constituent that her sick family member (w<em>ho had no insurance and needed surgery</em>) sell everything she own, so she will be poor enough to get on a government program&#8230;and then seek charity.  So why are the GOP making such empty and ridiculous arguments?  Why are the Democrats even <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/michael-moore-mocks-whiny_n_304033.html">too spineless</a> to conform to their own principles?  Simple&#8230;<em>they are all bought and paid for</em>:</p>
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<p><strong>2 -- THE &#8220;OBAMA YOUTH&#8221; FAUX CONSPIRACY:</strong> The latest fake outrage?  A group of school children are on tape singing a song about helping their country and President Obama&#8230;for African-American History Month&#8230;and the lyrics were sent home to parents ahead of time and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">nobody</span> objected.  So how does FOX News and the rest of the right-wing media respond?  Of course&#8230;they decry it as the worst kind of indoctrination, and go as far as to vehemently claim that this never happened (<em>and never would have happened</em>) under the Bush administration.  Except&#8230;<strong>it did</strong>.  There is a clip circulating of Bush with children&#8230;praising him for his handling of the Katrina disaster.  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">That&#8217;s right:</span> it&#8217;s kids praising Bush&#8230;and over one of his biggest, most thorough <strong>SCREW-UPS</strong> of his presidency.  Here&#8217;s the coverage from <em>Countdown with Keith Olbermann</em> (<em>contains all the clips</em>):</p>
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<p><strong>3 -- DEMONIZING YOUR ENEMY 101: </strong>Representative Trent Franks (R-AZ) <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090929/ap_on_go_co/us_franks_obama">speaking to a right-wing conference</a> at the inanely titled &#8220;<em>How To Take Back America</em>&#8221; conference, told the assembled crowd: &#8220;<strong>Obama&#8217;s first act as president of any consequence, in the middle of a financial meltdown, was to send taxpayers&#8217; money overseas to pay for the killing of unborn children in other countries.  Now, I got to tell you, if a president will do that, there&#8217;s almost nothing that you should be surprised at after that. We shouldn&#8217;t be shocked that he does all these other insane things. A president that has lost his way that badly, that has no ability to see the image of God in these little fellow human beings, if he can&#8217;t do that right, then he has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity.</strong>&#8220;  Frank says that <strong>OBAMA</strong> does insane things?  What about a sitting congressman referring to the President and Commander in Chief of his country as &#8220;<em>an enemy of humanity?</em>&#8220;  How is <strong>THAT</strong> reasonable or sane?  At the same conference, <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/61121/fear-of-fascism-gay-agenda-dominate-conservative-kickoff-for-midterm-elections">considerable time</a> was also given to the threat of the &#8220;<em>gay agenda</em>,&#8221; the &#8220;<em>fascist agenda,</em>&#8221; and the &#8220;<em>communist agenda</em>,&#8221; making it a veritable cornucopia of issues best categorized as &#8220;<em>things to scare uneducated rubes, entrenched bigots, and homophobes.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>4 -- SCAREMONGERING FOR DUMMIES:</strong> Meanwhile, the sick comedy team of Liz and Dick Cheney, would still like to tell you that Obama is making you less safe, that he is going to put terrorists in your neighborhood, and that he is going to let the terrorists kill you.  <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27705.html">Even the generals</a> are calling this &#8220;<strong>nonsense</strong>&#8221; and &#8220;<strong>scaremongering</strong>.&#8221;  Retired General David Maddox, former Army commander-in-chief for Europe, said:  &#8220;<strong>Some of the fear issues that are being raised in this are really unfortunate. It gets people excited about things they shouldn’t be excited about and impedes doing what is critical to this country. Get that damn symbol off the table.  We take a setback every time somebody, whether it’s the vice president or his daughter comes out and says the things that they say&#8230;We have to get out there again and just keep pounding.</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>5 -- POLITICS MINUS ETHICS:</strong> Remember hearing about the census worker found dead in Kentucky?  Hanging from a tree, bound and gagged, with the word &#8220;<strong>FED</strong>&#8221; written on his chest?  No doubt murdered as the result of the litany of &#8220;<em>Census Conspiracy Theories</em>&#8221; being peddled by Representative Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and others of the right-wing fringe?  Well the local authorities&#8230;<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/29/census-workers-son-im-sur_n_303081.html">still haven&#8217;t ruled out suicide or accidental death</a>.  Now, Kentucky officials may not be the brightest on the planet&#8230;but I&#8217;m certain that even they don&#8217;t think this happened &#8220;<em>accidentally</em>,&#8221; or that the substitute teacher/cancer survivor/census worker did it to <strong>HIMSELF</strong>.  No&#8230;they are mere petty politicians&#8230;who don&#8217;t want to admit that the chickens are coming home to roost&#8230;that the violent, inflammatory hate speech emitting out of the GOP and the right-wing media has finally claimed its first, and most obvious victim.  The man&#8217;s son calls it &#8220;<strong>shameful</strong>&#8220;&#8230;but it is even worse than that.</p>
<p><strong>6 -- MORE CHICKENS COMING HOME TO ROOST:</strong> What is all the outrage and incendiary language producing?  Besides dead census workers?  <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/28/kill-obama-facebook-poll-_n_302090.html">Incidents like this</a>:  Facebook, the social networking site, has had to disable the &#8220;<em>polling</em>&#8221; function because someone posted a poll asking if the president &#8220;<strong>should be killed.</strong>&#8220;  It&#8217;s a simple-to-understand social phenomenon, that has occurred at other times in history (for those willing to learn from history):  violent language, talk of killing political enemies, proclaiming the end of America, labeling opponents as the enemies of humanity, calling for armed insurrection&#8230;it invariably leads to public, violent ideation, threats, and eventually&#8230;<span style="text-decoration: underline;">actions</span>.  The Secret Service is investigating because, once again, threats against the president (<em>even if made in jest</em>) are <strong>ILLEGAL</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>7 -- YES, SADLY, MORE CHICKENS:</strong> Need other examples of where this is headed?  <em>Newsmax&#8217;s</em> columnist John Perry wrote a piece this week&#8230;<strong>OPENLY</strong> <strong>CALLING</strong> for an armed uprising against the government.  Perry wrote: &#8220;<strong>Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars.</strong>&#8220;  <em>Newsmax</em> <a href="http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/newsmax-distances-itself-from-columnist-says-we-believe-in-constitutional-govt.php?ref=fpblg">would later pull the article</a>&#8230;and at the same time attempted to lamely justify the piece saying that the author was only &#8220;<strong>describing</strong>&#8221; the scenario&#8230;not &#8220;<strong>advocating</strong>&#8221; it.  This semantic word-play should only serve as further cause for our disgust&#8230;and I would, as I did in the previous item, remind readers that &#8220;<em>free speech</em>&#8221; is not without constraints, and inciting armed insurrection against the government is <strong>CLEARLY</strong> illegal.</p>
<p><strong>8 -- PRIORITIES, SHMIORITIES:</strong> What does Michael Steele, chairmen of the Republican National Committee, think of the rhetoric, and the threats and violence it&#8217;s spawning?  <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/michael-steele-calls-thom_n_304402.html">Steele says</a> in response to calls to tone down the level of discourse: &#8220;<strong>Where do these nut jobs come from? Come on, stop this&#8230;To make those equations, examples and put that out there that way, to me is just crazy and yeah, I&#8217;m sorry, but if you&#8217;re going to approach this discussion, approach it from a rational position.  [They're] saying, because you disagree with the president on policy, that all of the sudden we&#8217;re going to make this leap into, you know, assassinations and all this other stuff. I mean, at the height of all this stuff on Bush and people complaining and protesting, and jumping up and down, you didn&#8217;t have this kind of conversation.</strong>&#8220;  See what he did there?  It&#8217;s how the conservatives are responding to <strong>ALL</strong> criticism.  When it was suggested that <strong>SOME</strong> of the people adamantly protesting the president MIGHT be harboring racist sentiments, the right-wing responded, &#8220;<em>They&#8217;re saying that <strong>ALL</strong> people who criticize the president are racists!</em>&#8220;  And now, that many are saying that the current level of unreasonable, inciting language by <strong>SOME</strong> could <strong>POSSIBLY</strong> lead to violence, the right-wing responds, &#8220;<em>They&#8217;re saying all people who criticize the president are going to cause an assassination!</em>&#8220;  It&#8217;s a childish, pat response to an argument&#8230;that they are going to lose.  It&#8217;s worth noting that the cause that Steele <strong>DOES</strong> think is worth fighting&#8230;<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/29/steele-rips-obama-for-mak_n_302903.html">is denouncing Obama</a> for taking <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>ONE DAY</strong></span> to travel to Copenhagen to try to get the Olympics to be held in Chicago.  That&#8217;s right&#8230;Steele, thinks it&#8217;s important to attack the president for <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/29/gibbs-is-steele-rooting-f_n_303305.html">trying to bring the Olympics</a> (<em>with all the business and prestige that accompanies the event</em>) to an American city.  Not health care&#8230;not the increasingly violent tone of American political discourse&#8230;not Afghanistan&#8230;the <strong>OLYMPICS</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>9 -- JUST ASK BRISTOL:</strong> Teens know that &#8220;<em>abstinence programs</em>&#8221; are a joke.  Studies show that the government, under the Bush administration, spent <strong>MOUNTAINS</strong> of our money funding these programs&#8230;to <strong>NO EFFECT</strong>.  <a href="http://www.statesman.com/services/content/news/stories/local/2009/09/27/0927abstinence.html?cxtype=ynews_rss">Even Texas</a>&#8230;the number one recipient of &#8220;<em>abstinence program</em>&#8221; funds, is now changing their program to a more comprehensive sex education program&#8230;because under &#8220;<em>abstinence</em>&#8221; their teen birth rate stayed the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">third highest in the nation</span> and they have the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">highest percentage</span> of teen mothers giving birth more than once. So&#8230;it makes <strong>ZERO</strong> sense that <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/29/panel-votes-to-restore-ab_n_303812.html">the Senate just approved</a> restoring the $50 million a year of federal funding to &#8220;<em>abstinence-only programs.</em>&#8220;  That is&#8230;it makes zero sense until I tell you it was the Senate Finance Committee led by Max Baucus, the same committee to produce the only health care reform bill out of five currently in Congress that has neither a public option, nor true reform&#8230;and that would net billions more in profits for the health care industry.  Suddenly, it all becomes clear how this happened&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>10 -</strong> <strong>AY, DIOS MIO! </strong>The Republican Party has failed miserably despite its attempts since the election to attract minority voters.  Its latest efforts related to Hispanic Heritage Month, <strong>won&#8217;t help very much</strong>.  It&#8217;s bad enough that the party&#8217;s leaders regularly spout anti-immigrant, xenophobic, anti-Hispanic propaganda&#8230;but <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/09/29/rncs-spanish-translation-of-hispanic-heritage-month-press-release-riddled-with-errors/">when their press release</a> (<em>in Spanish</em>) to the Hispanic community is literally <strong>FILLED</strong> with spelling, grammatical, and translation errors, well, it certainly doesn&#8217;t make them look very &#8220;<em>in touch</em>&#8221; with the Hispanic people.  I mean <span style="text-decoration: underline;">seriously</span>&#8230;if they had even had <strong>ONE</strong> Spanish-speaking person <strong>JUST LOOK AT</strong> the release&#8230;they could have avoided this.  The ad they put out&#8230;was in some ways even more insulting, since they failed to deem any prominent non-conservative Hispanics worthy of mention.  You would think they would at least have give some time to Sonia Sotomayor&#8230;<em>yeesh</em>.</p>
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<p>I read pieces like these and my first thought is, &#8220;<em>I wonder if they are ashamed&#8230;I wonder if they are embarrassed,</em>&#8221; and then I realize that since the behavior of our elected officials, our media, and our fellow citizens reflects on me&#8230;<strong>that I am embarrassed</strong>.  We all should be, because it is only by our permission that people such as these are given power, are given a voice.  And until we revoke the power and the pulpit from those who we do not wish to represent us&#8230;it is we who are equally at fault.</p>
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