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		<title>Torture, And The Cheney Denial Trifecta: Dick, Liz, and Mary</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[After weeks dominated by the subject of health care reform, one specter from the recent past has raised its head once again:  The Bush administration's politicization of our nation's security. So, the conversation begins anew, and with fresh, damning information...here's how it's going so far (there are some real surprises).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After weeks dominated by the subject of health care reform, one specter from  the recent past has raised its head once again:  <strong>The Bush administration&#8217;s  politicization of our nation&#8217;s security</strong>.  Not long ago, the torture debate  <em>had reached an  impasse</em>:  Attorney General Holder and President Obama seemed satisfied with  taking the position that CIA interrogators and contractors who tortured  prisoners under the guidelines provided in the Department of Justice  memos&#8230;even though the memos are <strong>LEGALLY UNSOUND</strong> and self-serving&#8230;were acting  in &#8220;<em>good faith</em>&#8221; and would not be investigated or prosecuted.  On a broader  note, even though it was suspected that the Bush administration manipulated the  law, the media, and the public in order to advance their political agendas and  to pursue extra-legal enforcement methods&#8230;Holder and Obama seemed determined  to let that sleeping dog lie as well.</p>
<p><strong>Then, two documents changed everything:</strong></p>
<p><strong>1 -</strong> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Inspector General&#8217;s Report on CIA Interrogations</span>:  <a href="http://luxmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o10/clients/aclu/IG_Report.pdf">The report  is quite clear</a>&#8230;our interrogators used means of torture <strong>FAR</strong> outside even  the egregious amount supported by the DOJ memos.  They threatened to kill  detainees, and put guns and even a power drill to detainees&#8217; heads&#8230;<em>this is  illegal</em>.  They threatened to bring in detainees&#8217; wives and children, and to  rape them or kill them in front of the detainees&#8217; eyes&#8230;<em>also illegal</em>.  They kept them  in filthy diapers for extended periods&#8230;induced hypothermia&#8230;induced blackouts  by cutting off blood flow to the prisoners&#8217; brains&#8230;struck them with knees and  rifle butts&#8230;deprived them of sleep for days&#8230;oh, <strong>AND</strong> they waterboarded them,  some of them repeatedly.  AG Holder finally had no choice, and appointed a Special  Prosecutor.</p>
<p><strong>2 -</strong> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Former Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge&#8217;s Book</span>:  Once a  symbol for the domestic front of the Bush &#8220;<em>War On Terror,</em>&#8221; Tom Ridge&#8217;s book,  &#8220;<em>The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege,</em>&#8221; <a href="http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/08/19/tom-ridge-on-national-security-after-911.html"> clearly paints a picture</a> of the manipulation of terror alerts for political  purposes.  He was the Secretary of Homeland Security&#8230;but wasn&#8217;t even  invited to National Security Council Meetings.  He was deliberately kept  uninformed by the FBI.  Essentially&#8230;he was told by Bush&#8217;s cabinet what  they wanted him to say, what to do, and what not to do.  He writes of one  particular &#8220;l<em>ast straw</em>:&#8221;  Attorney General Ashcroft asks Ridge to raise the  Terror Alert Level and to release an tape of Bin Laden criticizing Bush.   Ridge knew that there had been more than 20 tapes since 9/11&#8230;and none of them contained  any threats worth releasing.  Ridge also knew, that every time he raised  the Alert Level, Bush received a boost in the polls&#8230;and that the political  timing for a boost was very evident in this case.  Ridge and his department  denied the request, only to be pressured further by Ashcroft and Defense  Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.</p>
<p>So, the conversation begins anew, and with fresh, damning information&#8230;<strong>here&#8217;s  how it&#8217;s going so far (<em>there are some real surprises</em>)</strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Tom Ridge&#8230;seems to be having second thoughts.  Having recovered  	fully from his momentary lapse of honesty, Ridge 	<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-08-30-tom-ridge_N.htm?csp=34"> now tells USA Today</a> that he was in no way squeezed to raise the Alert  	Level, nor is he critical of the previous administration&#8217;s decision to keep  	him in the dark:  &#8220;<strong>I was never pressured&#8230;I&#8217;m not second-guessing my  	colleagues&#8230;</strong>&#8220;  You know, it&#8217;s bad enough if you say one thing on  	Monday and the opposite on Tuesday&#8230;but you&#8217;ll probably only get in trouble  	if somebody pulls up the video clips of both speeches.  In this  	case&#8230;you wrote it in your <strong>BOOK</strong>, Ridge&#8230;which is it:  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is the book a  	lie, or what you are telling us now?</span></li>
<li>But Ridge isn&#8217;t the only Republican to accuse the Bush White House of  	releasing information for political purposes:  former Representative  	Rick Renzi&#8217;s attorneys have 	<a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/renzi_lawyers_argue_bush_doj_leaked.php"> filed a motion</a>, calling for the government to show why it should not be  	held in contempt for releasing details of a grand jury investigation into  	Renzi, in an attempt to save his struggling re-election campaign.  Up  	until then, it had always been the DOJ&#8217;s policy not to comment on ongoing  	investigations&#8230;until Harriet Myers and Karl Rove approached them and told  	them to &#8220;<em>throw cold water</em>&#8221; on reports that Renzi was under investigation&#8230;   	which they did.  So, by our tally&#8230;that&#8217;s hiring and firing federal  	attorneys using a partisan &#8220;<em>litmus test</em>&#8220;&#8230;releasing the identity of an  	undercover CIA agent&#8230;and illegally releasing grand jury details for  	political purposes.  <strong><em>And the hits just keep on coming..</em></strong>.</li>
<li>Former VP Dick Cheney, now preparing for the upcoming promotion of his  	new book in earnest, responded as all would expect.  He called enhanced  	interrogation &#8220;<strong>absolutely essential</strong>,&#8221;  called the appointment of a  	Special Prosecutor to investigate our use of torture an &#8220;<strong>outrageous  	political act</strong>,&#8221; and said that on a personal level it &#8220;<strong>offends the hell out  	of me (Cheney)</strong>.&#8221;  Then, Cheney&#8230;appears to contradict himself.   	First he says: &#8220;<strong>We had a president of the United States, President Obama, tell us  	a few months ago there wouldn&#8217;t be an investigation.  Now, they get a  	little heat from the left wing of the Democratic Party and they are  	reversing course on that.</strong>&#8220;  Of course, even casual observers realize  	that the investigation has more to do with the release of the Inspector  	General&#8217;s report than it does &#8220;<em>pressure from Democrats</em>,&#8221; but it is what  	Cheney said next that seems more worthy of our attention: &#8220;<strong>The president is  	the chief law enforcement officer in the administration.  He is now  	saying, well, this isn&#8217;t anything he&#8217;s got to do with.</strong>&#8220;  Mr.  	Cheney&#8230;if you agree that the President is the &#8220;<em>chief law enforcement  	officer</em>&#8221; of the nation&#8230;and he is presented with clear, documented proof  	that acts were committed in violation with the Constitution and the laws of  	the land&#8230;then doesn&#8217;t <strong>HE HAVE</strong> to investigate it?  Otherwise&#8230;what  	kind of &#8220;<em>law enforcement officer</em>&#8221; would he be?</li>
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<li><strong>Like Daddy, Like Daughter: </strong> Of course, we&#8217;ve also come to expect  	that Liz Cheney will defend any and all of her father&#8217;s actions.   	Unfortunately for Liz, she decided to do so on a panel that included Sam  	Donaldson, who was quick to point out that her logic is both flawed and  	self-serving:</li>
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<li><strong>Cheney Denial Trifecta:</strong> Cheney&#8217;s other daughter, Mary, is unlikely  	to comment on the subject of enhanced interrogation&#8230;but appears to share  	her father&#8217;s penchant for denial.  I used to feel just terrible for  	Mary:  during the presidential campaigns, Dick Cheney was often asked  	about his positions towards gay rights, given that his daughter, Mary, is a  	lesbian.  I always thought it shameful that he chose not to defend his  	own daughter&#8217;s rights and equality.  	<a href="http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/31/mary-cheney-gave-1000-to-anti-gay-senate-hopeful/"> But now we find out</a>&#8230;that despite being a lesbian, in a lesbian partnership,  	and with adopted children&#8230;Mary Cheney donated to former Representative Rob  	Portman (R-OH), a GOP Senate hopeful.  Portman&#8230;is anti-gay marriage,  	and anti-gay adoption.  Maybe Dick just figured there was no need to  	defend his daughter&#8230;<span style="text-decoration: underline;">if she won&#8217;t even defend herself</span>&#8230;or maybe, it&#8217;s just  	another Cheney example of partisanship coming before what&#8217;s right.</li>
<li>In responding to Cheney&#8217;s positions&#8230;Senator John McCain (R-AZ) swung  	for the fences.  He said, &#8220;<strong>I think the interrogations were in violation  	of the Geneva Conventions and the convention against torture that we  	ratified under President Reagan.  I think these interrogations, once  	publicized, helped al Qaeda recruit. I got that from an al Qaeda operative  	in a prison camp in Iraq&#8230; I think that the ability of us to work with our  	allies was harmed. And I believe that information, according go the FBI and  	others, could have been gained through other members.</strong>&#8220;  Of course, then  	he qualified his remarks by adding, &#8220;<strong>I believe the president [Obama] was  	right when he said we ought to go forward and not back.</strong>&#8220;  I&#8217;ve said  	this before:  To admit that laws/treaties were broken, but then say there is  	no need pursue the legal investigation/trial process, violates not only our  	country&#8217;s laws, but also our values.</li>
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<li>Summary (<em>my paraphrasing, not actual quotes</em>) of 	<a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1919523,00.html">CIA  	claims</a> that McCain knew all about the torture they were about to commit:  	<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CIA:</span> </strong>&#8220;We told McCain and the others the six interrogation methods were were  	going to use.&#8221;  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">McCain spokesperson:</span> </strong>&#8220;Nuh uh!  McCain repeatedly  	questioned what you were going to do and never gave his approval.&#8221;   	<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CIA:</span> </strong>&#8220;Well&#8230;we weren&#8217;t really there for the legislators  	&#8216;approval&#8217;&#8230;just their feedback.  Some liked it&#8230;some didn&#8217;t.   	We were cool with that.&#8221;  <em>Why is this conversation so important?</em> Because Steven G. Bradbury, a deputy assistant attorney general, wrote his  	memo justifying torture, using the rationale that the methods were  	acceptable and legal because the ideas didn&#8217;t seem to &#8220;<strong>shock the conscience</strong>&#8221;  	of the legislators, and that is a legal standard related to the Fifth  	Amendment of the Constitution, which covers Due Process.  Perhaps the  	problem is that we need more legislators who have actual &#8220;<em>consciences</em>&#8221; to  	&#8220;<em>shock</em>.&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>Unlikely Advocate:</strong> Grover Norquist, president of <em>Americans for Tax  	Reform</em> and a leading conservative activist&#8230;<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/31/grover-norquist-torture-i_n_272785.html">thinks  	the investigations</a> into torture <strong>ARE A GOOD IDEA</strong>.  Of course his  	reasons are a bit suspect&#8230;he wants to be able to have the Obama  	administration investigated down the road: &#8220;<strong>Holder is making a decision that  	one administration should go back and second-guess another administration.  	Yes, it&#8217;s political but he is also opening the door to what will happen  	after Holder and Obama&#8217;s legacy here.  I think that someday when we  	have a different Justice Department, people need to go back and look at how  	all of this money in the stimulus package was paid. And who it went to. What  	about all of those secret meetings that were never transparent about who was  	going to get what?&#8230;The Bush administration started their administration  	foolishly, not seriously looking into the cash for pardons challenge that  	the Clinton administration had.  They were wrong to decide not to do  	that and I think that the next Republican administration will follow  	Holder&#8217;s path rather than the Bush path of the past.</strong>&#8220;  While his  	reasoning is certainly overtly political and almost sickeningly  	vindictive&#8230;he may be right on one level.  If <strong>ANY</strong> administration acts  	outside the law&#8230;shouldn&#8217;t the next administration investigate it, or  	should they just continue this tradition of a &#8220;<em>courteous disregard for  	previous illegal activity?</em>&#8220;  If an administration didn&#8217;t break any  	laws&#8230;what would they have to fear from an investigation?</li>
<li>Andrew Sullivan addresses part of the reason why what should be an  	exceedingly clear issue (<em>torture is both wrong and illegal, and we used  	torture</em>), has instead been allowed to become very muddied waters.  The 	<strong>MEDIA</strong>.  Sullivan takes Chris Wallace to task for completely &#8220;<em>softballing</em>&#8221;  	his interview with Dick Cheney 	<a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/08/chris-wallace-a-teenage-girl-interviewing-the-jonas-brothers.html"> in his column</a>, hilariously titled: &#8220;<strong>Chris Wallace, A Teenage Girl  	Interviewing The Jonas Brothers.</strong>&#8220;  Sullivan lists all of the weak  	questions asked by Wallace, and then shares his two favorite exchanges:&#8221;<strong>My two favorite moments:</strong><br />
<blockquote><p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CHENEY</span>: I am going to &#8212; if I address that, I will address it in my  		book, Chris. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WALLACE</span>: It is going to be a hell of a book. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CHENEY</span>: It is going to be a great book.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>And then the apology for asking the questions Cheney wanted asked:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WALLACE</span>: Well, we want to thank you for talking with us and including  		in your private life putting up with an interview from the likes of me. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">CHENEY</span>: It&#8217;s all right. I enjoy your show, Chris. </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WALLACE</span>: Thank you very much, and all the best sir.</strong>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
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<li><strong>Check This Out</strong>:  Dan Froomkin does a fairly 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/31/cheney-still-manipulating_n_273034.html"> thorough look</a> at the litany of public deceptions utilized by Dick Cheney  	over the years.  He includes a fascinating quote from 	<a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2009/08/the-method-of-cheneys-madness.html"> Obsidian Wings blogger publius</a>: &#8220;<strong>If you&#8217;ve noticed, Cheney tends to  	pop up in the aftermath of damning evidence. We just (re)learned, for  	instance, that our CIA agents murdered detainees, choked them, and  	threatened to rape their wives. Normally, you would think these revelations  	would give pause to even the most ardent Cheney supporters. But then Cheney  	comes along, and tries to reframe the whole story. His intended audience  	isn&#8217;t the nation as a whole, but <em>conservatives</em>. He wants to make  	sure that they view these stories through partisan-tinted lenses.</strong>&#8220;</li>
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<p>I will relay more news on this subject, and the subsequent denials from the  Cheney clan, as they are available.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By now, Republicans along with much of the right-wing fringe have attempted  to paint President Obama as the &#8220;<em>most liberal</em>&#8221; president ever, who is  making &#8220;<em>drastic and rapid</em>&#8221; changes that are somehow fundamentally  changing the country we live in.</p>
<p>But&#8230;upon what information are these claims based?  What has changed so <strong>PROFOUNDLY</strong> as to make these people feel that &#8220;<em>their America</em>&#8221; is  slipping away from them?  Truthfully&#8230;is Obama really even <strong>THAT</strong> liberal?</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Some points for your consideration:</strong></span></p>
<p>-  Obama kept Gates as Defense Secretary and Petraeus as commander of  U.S. Central Command&#8230;it was said that this was to preserve some sort of &#8220;<em>continuity</em>,&#8221;  but the truth is, with our military so politicized under Bush, and our efforts  in Iraq so badly planned and managed, is there really <strong>ANY</strong> justification  for the holdovers?</p>
<p>-  Obama kept Geithner (<em>elevating him to Treasury Secretary</em>) and <a href="http://www.newsday.com/ap-source-obama-keeps-bernanke-at-fed-1.1392257"> kept Bernanke</a> as head of the Fed&#8230;and recently re-upped Bernanke for a  second term.  Again, while many may credit Geithner/Bernanke with helping  to &#8220;<em>avert an economic collapse</em>&#8220;&#8230;don&#8217;t we at least have to blame them a  little for, well, <strong>WHAT LED US <span style="text-decoration: underline;">TO</span> THE COLLAPSE</strong>?</p>
<p>-  Obama has stopped our torture programs.  And recently, he put <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32552121/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/"> a very special man in charge</a> of making sure our interrogators don&#8217;t torture:  <em>John Brennan</em>, the same man who, under Bush, helped <strong>DEVELOP</strong> the  torture program.</p>
<p>- Obama, while closing Gitmo&#8230;has kept the military commission available for  use.</p>
<p>- The Obama Administration backed the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/20/obama-backs-bush-on-bagra_n_168766.html"> Bush policy</a> that Bagram detainees in Afghanistan&#8230;have no constitutional  rights.</p>
<p>-  The Obama Administration opted <strong>NOT</strong> to release the photos of  the mistreatment of detainees, despite their claim that such items <strong>CLEARLY</strong> fall under the Freedom of Information Act.</p>
<p>-  Obama has <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/us/politics/04bar.html?_r=1&amp;partner=rss&amp;emc=rss"> asserted the same</a>, controversial &#8220;<em>state secrets</em>&#8221; policy employed by  Bush to protect the government against multiple lawsuits&#8230;no matter how  well-founded the charges.</p>
<p>-  Obama continued the Bush policy of refusing to release the White  House visitors list.</p>
<p>-  Obama has repeatedly resisted calls to investigate torture committed  by U.S. personnel&#8230;despite mounting evidence.  When forced to initiate  investigations&#8230;he has called for inquiries to go no higher than the  interrogators themselves (that is, ignoring the individuals who <strong>ORDERED</strong> the torture)&#8230;and only those interrogators who exceeded the fundamentally  flawed DOJ memos which gave only the semblance of legality, not actual legality,  to the interrogators&#8217; actions.</p>
<p>-  Obama has continued the use of Bush&#8217;s infamous, and unconstitutional,  &#8220;<em>signing statements</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>-  The White House is required to save all emails&#8230;millions from the  Bush years are missing.  <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/21/obama-administration-tryi_n_168843.html"> The lawsuit</a> from two advocacy groups calling for those emails to be  recovered?  The Obama White House opposed it and took steps to kill it.</p>
<p>-  The Obama Health Care Plan?  Not even half as &#8220;<em>nationalized</em>&#8221;  or &#8220;<em>socialized</em>&#8221; as the Clintons&#8217;.  It still allows for a system  dominated by private insurance, even <strong>IF</strong> the public option is included.</p>
<p>-  A challenge against the anti-gay marriage &#8220;<em>Defense of Marriage  Act?</em>&#8220;  The Obama White House <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/12/obama-defends-antigay-def_n_214764.html"> asked the court to dismiss it</a>.</p>
<p>-  A case that would have put the military&#8217;s &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell&#8221;  policy in front of the Supreme Court&#8230;the administration <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124268952606832391.html?mod=blog">let  the deadline to file a Supreme Court appeal pass quietly</a>.</p>
<p>-  The rendition/kidnapping program&#8230;kept alive.</p>
<p>-&#8221;<em>Targeted killings</em>&#8221; (<em>we call them assassinations</em>) in Pakistan  and Afghanistan&#8230;expanded.</p>
<p>-  In fact, almost all but two of the eleven key components of Bush&#8217;s  anti-terror tools <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/19/obama/">have been  kept</a> (<em>torture, and &#8220;black sites&#8221; are gone</em>), some of them have even  been expanded.</p>
<p>-  Warrantless Wiretapping&#8230;the Obama Administration actually fought to  keep it in place.</p>
<p>-  Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/276902">another</a> look&#8230;and <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/29575/aclu-lawsuit-tests-obama-openness-policies"> another</a>&#8230;and <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/08/25/obama_finds_himself_between_bu.html?hpid=topnews"> another</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>In fact, it looks like the people who most bought the &#8220;<em>campaign rhetoric</em>&#8221;  of &#8220;<strong>CHANGE</strong>&#8220;&#8230;were Republicans.  Because despite the fact that Obama  has led as nothing, if not as a centrist&#8230;who has to date <strong>NOT</strong> called for  drastic nationalization of the banks or the health care industry&#8230;who has <strong> NOT</strong> drawn a firm line in the sand towards defending civil liberties and  equality&#8230;and who has <strong>NOT</strong> reversed more than a handful of the Bush  administration&#8217;s most odious and unconstitutional policies&#8230;<strong>the Republicans  are still seeing Obama as some sort of &#8220;<em>lefty crusader</em>.&#8221; </strong> New  flash guys&#8230;you should be thanking your lucky stars:  the majority of  Americans <strong>DID</strong> want real change, are ready for &#8220;<em>lefty policies</em>,&#8221;  and are ready to see a return to the Constitution and the Rule of Law&#8230;we are  the ones who should be most disappointed and scared thus far, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>not you</em></span>.</p>
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		<title>Inspector General&#8217;s Torture Report:  Shocking Findings and Odd Reactions</title>
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		<dc:creator>TBartine</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Ari Fleischer]]></category>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A government &#8220;<em>of the people</em><em>, by the </em><em>people</em><em>, for  the </em><em>people</em><em style="font-style: normal;">&#8221; can be a double-edged  sword.  Of course, in theory, it means that we, through the democratic  process, determine what the government should and shouldn&#8217;t do.   However&#8230;many people don&#8217;t take the time to realize that it also means that  we&#8230;are then responsible for what the government ultimately does.  That  is, of course, unless the government was concealing its actions from our view,  effectively removing our ability to consent/dissent.</em></p>
<p><em style="font-style: normal;">It&#8217;s a painful revelation, if one is  encountering it for the first time.  It means, for example, that if the  United States tortured detainees&#8230;that we are responsible for it.  That is  why it is so very difficult for some to even admit that waterboarding <strong>IS</strong>,  in fact, <strong>TORTURE</strong>.  Because if it is&#8230;then <strong>WE</strong> tortured  people.  While it is should be obvious to even the most simple-minded of  our citizenry that certain actions we engaged in were torture, were in violation  of more than one international treaty, were in violation of the articles of war,  and were in violation of our own federal statutes&#8230;<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>some people simply  cannot bring themselves to admit it.</strong></span> It is simply too  embarrassing&#8230;too painful&#8230;that a nation once so noble, could have sunk so  low.  Even today, as I watched Fox News during lunch (</em><em>not my  channel choice, but c&#8217;est la vie</em><em style="font-style: normal;">), I watched  as a guest expert on their &#8220;</em><em>news</em><em style="font-style: normal;">&#8221;  program stated plainly that the actions detailed in the recently released  Inspector General&#8217;s findings were <strong>CLEARLY</strong> torture&#8230;only to have the host  of the show quickly assert that &#8220;</em><em>many people</em><em style="font-style: normal;">&#8221;  would not call the actions in the report &#8220;</em><em>torture</em><em style="font-style: normal;">.&#8221;   Perhaps&#8230;but those &#8220;</em><em>many people</em><em style="font-style: normal;">&#8221;  would be mistaken, and in the depths of profound self-deception.  In fact,  despite the fact that the Inspector General&#8217;s report describes in detail  thoroughly disgusting practices, that may well have exceeded even the level of  interrogation that was authorized&#8230;and even though the report noticeably does  not show that torture was necessary to produce results&#8230;Fox News&#8217; website <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/25/cia-interrogation-probe-reignites-national-security-debate-effectiveness/"> already claims</a> that the report may serve as proof of the torture&#8217;s efficacy:   &#8220;</em><strong>Two new documents released by the CIA on enhanced interrogation  techniques appear to declare a success efforts to gain intelligence on potential  terror attacks, leading opponents of an investigation into CIA interrogators  wondering about the Obama administration&#8217;s motives.</strong><em style="font-style: normal;">&#8220;</em></p>
<p><em style="font-style: normal;">So, let&#8217;s perform a quick examination of  recent events, </em><em>so that we can judge for ourselves</em><em style="font-style: normal;">:</em></p>
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<li><em style="font-style: normal;">The heavily-redacted Inspector General&#8217;s  	report (<a href="http://luxmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o10/clients/aclu/IG_Report.pdf">may  	be found here</a>), seems to make clear the following:  <strong>1-</strong> The  	measures were approved at a <strong>HIGH</strong> level  <strong>2-</strong> They  	threatened to execute detainees, held mock executions  <strong>3-</strong> They threatened to kill detainees&#8217; families, rape their mothers, their  	wives, and their children in front of them <strong>4-</strong> They applied  	pressure to detainees&#8217; carotid arteries, restricting bloodflow to the brain,  	causing unconsciousness  <strong>5-</strong> Detainees were struck in the  	torso with rifle butts and knees  <strong>6-</strong> Detainees were  	waterboarded in the style of Japanese prisoner torture <strong>7-</strong> Detainees were suspended by their arms to simulate shoulder dislocation  	<strong>8-</strong> Detainees were kept in soiled diapers for extended periods  	<strong>9-</strong> Detainees were stripped naked and doused with water on a  	bare floor to induce hypothermia  <strong>10-</strong> Detainees died as  	the result of their treatment  <strong>11-</strong> The interrogators  	received only two weeks training in how to perform interrogations, based on 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/torture-memos-used-overst_n_267607.html"> flawed/exaggerated study data</a> produced by the CIA  <strong>12-</strong> Detainees were tortured despite the absence of any information indicating  	that they were guilty of anything, or even that they knew anything  <strong> 13-</strong> Detainees were tortured who were likely to have provided  	information, perhaps even more reliable information without torture. </em><em>Salon</em><em style="font-style: normal;"> has 	<a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/24/ig_report/">a  	good write-up</a> of the report, for those who do not wish to read (</em><em>or  	who cannot stomach</em><em style="font-style: normal;">) the actual report.</em></li>
<li><em style="font-style: normal;"><strong>Quick FYI:</strong> It is worth  	mentioning, related to the list of activities and revelations above, that  	both the torture measures <strong>AND</strong> the death threats&#8230;are violations of  	anti-torture laws.</em></li>
<li><em style="font-style: normal;">Faced with the Inspector General&#8217;s  	findings that the treatment of detainees was, at times, &#8220;</em><strong>unauthorized,  	improvised, inhumane</strong>&#8220;&#8230;Attorney General Holder was left with little  	choice but to appoint John Durham as a Special Investigator to look into the  	matter.  While Obama and Holder have both expressed that the wish for  	Durham to focus only on the interrogators, and only those that exceeded the  	Department of Justice authorization memos&#8230;it is worth mentioning that  	Durham will have the authority to pursue <strong>ANY</strong> relevant information <strong> WHEREVER</strong> it may lead.  <em>The Wall Street Journal</em> did an  	interesting short piece on Durham 	<a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/08/24/john-durham-the-man-picked-to-investigate-the-cia/"> here</a>.  A registered Republican&#8230;<em>interesting choice.</em></li>
<li><strong>Mr. Pot&#8230;Meet Mr. Kettle:</strong> It is to be expected that the  	appointment of a Special Investigator would prompt statements from  	Republican leaders, accusing the administration of somehow &#8220;<em>making  	America less safe</em>.&#8221;  What was more than a little unexpected (<em>and  	deliciously ironic</em>) was former Vice President Cheney&#8217;s 	<a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/08/cheney_statement_on_cia_docume.asp"> accusation</a> that the move was a sign of the administration attempting to  	&#8220;<strong>politicize</strong>&#8221; the Justice Department.  Yes&#8230;this, coming from  	the man who most hold ultimately responsible for the 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/24/justice-department-report_n_109033.html"> politically motivated hiring</a> and 	<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1714926720070819"> firing</a> of U.S. Attorneys&#8230;especially those thought to be &#8220;<em>lefties</em>,&#8221;  	or &#8220;<em>lesbians</em>,&#8221; or simply not in favor of pursuing unfounded,  	politically motivated investigations.  This claim is also  	interesting&#8230;coming from a man who many expect was the &#8220;<em>administration  	source</em>&#8221; of orders to use torture against detainees.</li>
<li><strong>Plus</strong>&#8230;Cheney is simply dead wrong.  Obama and the  	administration have somewhat disappointingly sided with <strong>NOT</strong> investigating the torture that occurred during the Bush years&#8230;it was  	exclusively 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/holder-to-appoint-special_n_267385.html"> Attorney General Holder&#8217;s call</a> to appoint an Investigator.</li>
<li>Cheney&#8230;<em>was not finished</em>.  He also 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/25/cheney-cia-interrogators_n_268049.html"> has stated</a> that these interrogators&#8230;&#8221;<strong>deserve our gratitude</strong>&#8221; and  	do not deserve &#8220;<strong>to be the targets of political investigations or  	prosecutions.</strong>&#8220;  Humor me, by following the logic:  if  	interrogators broke the laws (<em>even if ordered to do so&#8230;as being ordered  	to do so is <strong>NOT</strong> a legal defense</em>), and committed despicable acts  	of torture and coercion against American prisoners, sometimes even resulting  	in the prisoners&#8217; deaths&#8230;then according to Cheney, they deserve our &#8220;<em>gratitude</em>.&#8221;   	Is this how Americans are usually expected to treat members of our society  	that break the laws&#8230;even those committing murder?</li>
<li>Ari Fleischer, press secretary under Bush, 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/fleischer-torture-investi_n_267437.html"> said</a>, &#8220;<strong>I think the decision is disgusting.  It&#8217;s amazing to me  	that the people who kept us safe may now become the people our government  	prosecutes. There are plenty of real criminals out there -- it would be nice  	if the Justice Department went after them.</strong>&#8220;  First of all, Mr.  	Fleischer&#8230;there is little proof these people &#8220;<em>kept us safe</em>,&#8221; and  	there is, indeed, an argument to be made that their actions made both us and  	our soldiers <strong>LESS</strong> safe and resulted in the swelling of ranks within  	terrorist organizations.  Secondly, if they broke the law&#8230;then they 	<strong>ARE</strong> &#8220;<em>real criminals</em>,&#8221; as you say&#8230;that&#8217;s the definition of &#8220;<em>criminal</em>&#8221;  	we use here in the United States.</li>
<li>Meanwhile, some people&#8230;think the administration and the Justice  	Department have not gone far enough.  Representative Jerry Nadler, a  	senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, has 	<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/21/nadler-obama-violating-la_n_265124.html"> pointed out the simple truth</a>:  the President and other government  	officials have sworn oaths to defend the Constitution and laws of this  	country.  By willingly ignoring the growing mountain of evidence that  	serious crimes were committed&#8230;they are in violation of that oath.   	What is more, since under the anti-torture act of 1996, the United States  	government is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">obligated</span> to investigate accusations of torture&#8230;they  	are not only violating their oaths, but they are also violating the law  	which <strong>REQUIRES</strong> an investigation.  Until they do so&#8230;they are,  	in effect, criminals themselves.</li>
<li>It had long been speculated that the Bush Administration had &#8220;<em>manipulated</em>&#8221;  	terror alerts to their political advantage, following a simple formula:   	when something occurs that either hurts Republicans or helps  	Democrats&#8230;quickly distract the public with a new terrifying,  	unsubstantiated threat warning.  Now, Tom Ridge, former Secretary of  	Homeland Security&#8230;<a href="http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/08/19/tom-ridge-on-national-security-after-911.html">has  	verified</a> that he was asked to change the alert level for political  	reasons: &#8220;<strong>Ridge was never invited to sit in on National Security Council  	meetings; was &#8216;blindsided&#8217; by the FBI in morning Oval Office meetings  	because the agency withheld critical information from him; found his urgings  	to block Michael Brown from being named head of the emergency agency blamed  	for the Hurricane Katrina disaster ignored; and was</strong> <strong>pushed to  	raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush&#8217;s re-election,  	something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.</strong>&#8220;   	Congratulations to Keith Olbermann, who first succinctly reported on this  	pattern way back in 2006 in a segment titled the &#8220;<em>Nexus of Politics and  	Terror.</em>&#8220;  Here&#8217;s the clip:</li>
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<p><strong>I&#8217;ve said this before:</strong> it is worth the shame, to get to the truth and  to reconcile with what <strong>WE CLAIM</strong> are our ideals.  If laws were  broken, and there is certainly enough evidence to indicate that they were, then  there <strong>MUST</strong> be an investigation.  If such an investigation reveals  individuals who broke the law, along with any individuals who ordered them to  break the law&#8230;those people should face judgment in a court of law.  Those  who claim to value our Constitution have no choice but to call for this&#8230;<em>or  to reveal themselves to be liars who care little for the Constitution and for  Due Process</em>.  <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2150396/">In the  Nuremberg trials</a> following World War II&#8230;we clearly said it is <strong>NOT</strong> a  justification to perform crimes for the sake of one&#8217;s country&#8230;we clearly said  it is <strong>NOT</strong> a justification to commit crimes simply because you were  ordered to do so&#8230;we prosecuted the torturers, the people who watched them  torture and did nothing, the people who ordered them to torture, and the judges  who said it was legal for them to torture.  If we now shirk our  responsibilities under the law, and because this is a government &#8220;<em>of the  people</em><em>, by the </em><em>people</em><em>, for the </em><em>people</em><span style="font-style: normal;"><em>,</em>&#8220;</span> then we are <strong>ALL</strong> hypocrites, we are <strong>ALL</strong> criminals, and we are <strong> ALL</strong> torturers.</p>
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